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SIM Hack -> You Suspended your service ???

mikek33nan
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

My cell service stopped working today. When I logged in to PM I saw the following message...

Screenshot 2023-01-11 at 4.53.41 PM.png

It wasn't me. Has anyone had a similar experience? 

 

I was able to resume the service and it asked my if I wanted to activate with a different SIM card. I said NO. Could someone be trying to SIM hijack me?

 

Thanks for any help provided.

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darlicious
Mayor / Maire

@mikek33nan 

There's a glitch with rewards being applied automatically upon renewal when lost/stolen has been enabled in the previous 30 days of service. They must be applied manually by a CSA after renewal.

 

You sure left out a lot of info in your OP regarding your issue....it all makes sense now. There is a long standing glitch that sometimes occurs when changing plans. Previously if you scheduled a change plan on next renewal to a higher priced plan autopay can only charge the plan amount of the existing plan to your autopay card rather than the scheduled plan amount resulting in the amount charged shortchanged the new plan amount due and the system suspends the account for non payment. The customer has to manually top up the shortchanged amount to reactivate their service. It's recommended to avoid the possibility of an autopay failure to top up manually the new plan amount so that the autopay system is not engaged on the account.

 

Recently it's come to light with the many 2016 fall promo subscribers scheduling plan changes to the new 4G LTE plans that the opposite kind of glitch can occur as the autopay system will charge the old plan amount to the card registered for autopay. With the old plan being a 90 day plan it results in usually a triple payment (since most have chosen to change to the $40/15gb plan from the $120/12gb 90 day plan).

 

Most customers have come to community for advice and are advised that unless the extra $80 will cause them financial hardship to just leave the credit in their account balance to pay for the next couple of renewals. Otherwise they can contact customer support for a refund.

 

What I don't understand is why you did not do the same? And even though you chose to take the route of a chargeback why your card issuer would even start the process when you had not even requested a refund from public mobile? The first rule of a chargeback is the customer must make an attempt to contact the business of the disputed charge to try and settle the issue first and if the attempt is frustrated they can then dispute the charge with their credit card issuer who will issue a chargeback. You got off lightly with public mobile this time because they did overcharge your card in error. But I can guarantee that your account and credit card is flagged now for any future card disputes of this nature....I would count myself lucky in this regard.

 

As a note for a workaround for the new opposite glitch with autopay there may be a way to avoid this from happening.....

 

  1. The easy way.....top up manually as we recommend for scheduled higher priced plan changes. However the autopay system may still read that the higher amount needs to charged and in this particular case will still charge $80 to the card  or it may once it debits the account balance the $40 new plan amount renew the account on the new plan never needing to engage autopay to make the mistake in the first place?🤞
  2. As above but after midnight eastern on day 30/day 1 once rewards are applied disable autopay. The account should renew without issue. Once renewed enable autopay again. 👍

mikek33nan
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Thanks dabr. I should have left the credit there as you suggested. Hindsight is 20/20. By the way, a CS agent credited me back my $9 rewards to use next month. all is well. 🙂

@mikek33nan   Yes, I believe the problem was due to you switching from a 90 plan to the current 30 day one.  Even if the payment system charged you for 90 day cycle, then I believe you should have had an account balance for the extra 60 days of payment which would have been used for future renewals before your card would be debited again.   Anyway, at least you've managed to get it resolved, so all good.

mikek33nan
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

The change was scheduled for my next renewal of Dec 21st and I received the rewards then. However, PM overcharged my by $80 at that time.

@mikek33nan   Good to hear you've got your service back but usually the missing rewards are due to an immediate plan changes being done rather than scheduling for Change at Next Renewal.  Those rewards should be available for your next renewal though.

mikek33nan
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

I reactive it myself by clicking the "Resume Service" button. My balance owing was $0.00

It renewed automatically today as per my new billing cycle however, now I'm missing my $9 in rewards.

mikek33nan
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

I seems asinine to me that PM made the mistake by overcharging and punishes me for correcting it.

@mikek33nan   From what I've read about customers doing a chargeback to their CC, is that it can get very messy and you might need to pay with vouchers going forward until you've managed to clear this up with customer support as to the reason why you did the chargeback, however, that could take several weeks going by other previous threads on this topic.  

 

So get in touch with support and try to work it and meanwhile get a voucher from SDM, London Drugs, 7/11 or Shell and ask support to add it to resume your service.

 

edit:  reread your post, so you were able to clear up the chargeback with PM if you've managed to get the account reacitvated?

 

Hi @mikek33nan this is normal that PM stopped your service.   PM is prepaid provider and very sensitive to this as some bad people use this to get one free month of service 

  Please open ticket with CS agent to sort this out 

mikek33nan
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

I found out that your service is suspended when your CC company pulls charges back. PM overcharged my when I switched from a 3 month plan to a 1 month plan and I initiated an overcharge dispute from the CC side. Now PM says I own the $10.40 but can't explain why. As far as I can see, my balance is $0 owing and because nothing is owing, I was able to reactivate my service.

darlicious
Mayor / Maire

@mikek33nan 

Customer support tracks all access to the account. Personally for peace of mind I would want to know when the account was accessed, on which side (front or back end) and when lost/stolen was engaged and when autopay was disabled. BTW....with lost/stolen having been enabled your rewards will not automatically be applied upon renewal. You will have to contact customer support after your renewal to have them manually applied to your account balance.

dust2dust
Mayor / Maire

Looks like they might have done it anyway. But yes the lost/stolen status is a puzzler.

mikek33nan
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

I had zero success with the SC rep at the time and was content to leave the credit there for upcoming monthly payments.

@mikek33nan you should ask them when and why you service was suspended for Lost/Stolen..

dust2dust
Mayor / Maire

Did you ask them to do something about the credit?

mikek33nan
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Thanks for the tip on keeping my account secure. I switched plans in December from quarterly to monthly and they took too much on my auto payment. Basically they still took the 3 month amount and I was left with an $80 credit in my account.

 

Today the credit is gone and auto payment is no longer active. Looks like they tried to credit the $80 back to my card today.

 

Maybe all about nothing... just a glitch on PM again. 


@mikek33nan wrote:

My cell service stopped working today. When I logged in to PM I saw the following message...

Screenshot 2023-01-11 at 4.53.41 PM.png

It wasn't me. Has anyone had a similar experience? 

 

I was able to resume the service and it asked my if I wanted to activate with a different SIM card. I said NO. Could someone be trying to SIM hijack me?

 

Thanks for any help provided.


I don't believe that's the case.  If someone want to do that, the above the screenshot of suspending your service doesn't accomplsh anything. Besides, if that person did that so that the verification code was sent to e-mail, that person would have already had access to that e-mail account and would have already changed your service to a different SIM card.

darlicious
Mayor / Maire

@Handy1 

That is not the message an account will have when suspended due to non payment.

 

@mikek33nan 

You may want to contact customer support to see when your account was accessed to have lost/stolen enabled. Although not something you want to hear....but hopefully this was by accident by customer support. I would immediately change your password and 4 digit account pin # to be safe.

Handy1
Mayor / Maire

@mikek33nan @Was your renewal yesterday and auto pay failed possibly 

 

edit to be on the safe side I’d change password and make sure 2FA is on 

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