Upcoming Changes to our Old Rewards Program

[J_PM]

Hey Community,

We have an important announcement to share with our subscribers who are currently enrolled in our old Rewards program.

We’re making changes to our rewards program and are sharing how these changes impact some of our subscribers. Starting in May, we’ll be retiring our old Rewards program and moving all subscribers to our Public Points™ program. 

We launched the Public Points™ program in January 2022 to provide our subscribers with more ways to earn and spend rewards, with greater flexibility. As part of our commitment to continuously evolve our products and services, it's time to retire our old Rewards program and shift our focus on enhancing our Points program.

To show our appreciation for your continued loyalty, subscribers on our old Rewards program will receive a special thank you. We'll send you a text message when it has been added to your account by March 31st. 

We’re excited to continue providing you, our valued subscribers, more opportunities to earn and spend rewards with Public Points™ moving forward.

To learn more about your move to Public Points, check out our FAQ here.

The Public Mobile Team

[eyes]

I believe that most of us if not all one dollar more or less won’t bankrupt us .  It’s really all about the game - isn’t it? 

[IanP]

I think the agent is wrong and giving miss information. 

Thanks for the reply

[eyes]

These posts are still confusing me - For the record my $15 account just renewed yesterday and I did get rewards applied ($7) and new rewards added to my account that I think will be applied upon next renewal in the middle of may. 

[RetiredGuy1]

Yep, thats a more complete response to @IanP 

[computergeek541]

---

@RetiredGuy1 wrote:

Hi @IanP 

This is very puzzling indeed. The announcement literally states “Starting in May, we’ll be retiring our old Rewards program and moving all subscribers to our Public Points™ program.” It would seem obvious then that its status quo until May 1st at the very earliest.

Were you repeatedly dealing with the same CSA? If so, I think they’re simply confusing “March” with “May”. Now, if its two different CSAs….😳

---

Unfortunately, the CSAs haven't just confused March and May.  The CSAs actually infromed the customer that even though the person is still on the old rewards system, the loyalty and autopay rewards were removed from that old rewards system.  This simply is not true.  While I realize this is just a mistake on the the part of the CSAs, this is entirely misinformation.

[computergeek541]

---

@IanP wrote:

No, you no won't longer receive Loyalty Rewards and Automatic Payments Rewards. As mentioned before, they are no longer offered as of March 2024 to any customer (Still in the old system or new system)

***Those two Reward types are not part of our Rewards program effective as of March 2024 and will not longer be available to your account or any other customer account ***

You've been given incorrect information.  Those who have not voluntarily changed from the old rewards system are still on it.  Nobody has been forcibily changed yet over to points.  Any customer still on the old rewards system should still be receiving loyalty and autopay rewards.   Before being given incorrect information, the CSAs should have double checked because there is no factual basis to the responses that you were given.  There has been zero change to the old rewards program. I don't know where they got that from.

[RetiredGuy1]

Hi @IanP 

This is very puzzling indeed. The announcement literally states “Starting in May, we’ll be retiring our old Rewards program and moving all subscribers to our Public Points™ program.” It would seem obvious then that its status quo until May 1st at the very earliest.

Were you repeatedly dealing with the same CSA? If so, I think they’re simply confusing “March” with “May”. Now, if its two different CSAs….😳

[IanP]

I queried again and basically same answer.

Would an Orocle or someone with experience like to step in and discuss 

I thought data was awarded in March and migration in May

Hi IanP,

No, you no won't longer receive Loyalty Rewards and Automatic Payments Rewards. As mentioned before, they are no longer offered as of March 2024 to any customer (Still in the old system or new system)

I did not agree to change to points at any time.e before the enforced date

Answer: You are still in the old program

***Those two Reward types are not part of our Rewards program effective as of March 2024 and will not longer be available to your account or any other customer account ***

The migration we are expecting to have completed by May 2024 is something different.  You can check for more

[IanP]

Your not the only one!

Still seeking clarification withCS

[eyes]

---

@IanP wrote:

I asked again about removal in March of rewards for legacy customers as I thought it was in May that it takes effect.

1. The Migration to new Public Points program will be completed by May 2024.
2. Customers that are still in the Legacy Rewards program: Loyalty Rewards and Automatic Payments Rewards were already removed from the Points program as of March 4th 2024 and won't be added to any account anymore

---

I'm a bit confused with point #2.

[jakeoh1]

The "My rewards" page in my account still shows the legacy rewards, and makes it seem like these rewards will be applied on my next billing cycle at the beginning of May. I'd like to know if that will apply as I'm porting out four accounts as soon as the old reward system is gone.

[IanP]

I asked again about removal in March of rewards for legacy customers as I thought it was in May that it takes effect.

1. The Migration to new Public Points program will be completed by May 2024.
2. Customers that are still in the Legacy Rewards program: Loyalty Rewards and Automatic Payments Rewards were already removed from the Points program as of March 4th 2024 and won't be added to any account anymore

[IanP]

Just received an answer to question on why I can't see my 5 years of loyalty. 

I was able to check your account and you haven't been migrated yet. Remember, we are doing it in batches and we expect to have all our subscribers migrated by the beginning of march 2024.

Loyalty Rewards and Automatic Payments Rewards were already removed from the Points program as of March 4th 2024 and won't be added to any account anymore

I was able to check your account and you haven't been migrated yet. Remember, we are doing it in batches and we expect to have all our subscribers migrated by the beginning of march 2024.

Loyalty Rewards and Automatic Payments Rewards were already removed from the Points program as of March 4th 2024 and won't be added to any account anymore.

Thanks for your understanding

Regards

.

Thanks for your understanding

[IanP]

Is this suitable to submit to appeal their decision? As I understand it we have to have a public M. Response first before submitting 

Thanks for verifying your account,  This is Carol, since the previous agent is out of the office I'll be more than happy to continue assisting you today.

We understand that the old Rewards program was enjoyed by many of our loyal subscribers. Starting May 2024, we removed our old Rewards program and moved all subscribers to our Public Points™ program. 

If you would like to opt-out of the Public Points program entirely, you may do so with an agent, however you will forfeit any points you’ve earned up to this point (earned credits will remain) and will not be able to re-enroll in the program in the future.

We genuinely value your comment to our service, and while we are unable to modify the terms in this particular scenario, we’re here to explore the new Public Points program benefits.

You can use the following links to learn more about our new Public Points program.

[saturna]

---

@NoseyNick1 wrote:

That's PLENTY of calls/texts for me, but... no data? If i want a bit of data, not a lot, probably 250-300MB of data a month, am I better on the $15 plan, or $13 + occasional data add-on?

---

Unless you are still on the grandfathered $13 plan, this is a moot point. New activations and plan changes to the $10 $13 plan have not been possible for nearly 5 years. The plan was discontinued in July 2019.

Up to the introduction of 30day expiry dates for data add-ons, the answer to your question was a no-brainer for a fair share of minimalist users - 1GB of bought or gifted data would last some people a year or more (something like 85MB/month).

If you actually use that amount of data per payment cycle regularly on the $13 plan, you have probably run out of free and/or non-expiring data by now, and an additional $2 to move to the $15 beats the $5 for 200MB that expires in 30days. 

Having said that, I might have missed sarcasm in your post...

[NoseyNick1]

> just logged in again and the dreaded pop-up —- popped up again

Most likely cookie-related.  😕

[hTideGnow]

thanks @DownEast  for stating the obvious

[Nermal3]

In January 2022 you promised to grandfather the legacy rewards customers.  Why is this changing?

Why would we want to change from a clean system of rewards to this complicated points system?

This is crap.  I will be moving all of my PM services to another company that doesn't play stupid games like this.

[NoseyNick1]

> Did you promise to stay for 5 years? No.

No, but i was told what I would get if I did.

You can call that an advertising promise, or you can call it BS, up to you.   😞

[G_Pomzz]

Exactly, I think some might have jumped ship impulsively before really comparing apples to apples, which is quite difficult to do amongst all the providers myriad of plans. 

For myself, after carefully considering all the options, I've determined PM is still my preferred provider.

And...there is still a remote chance that with all the hullabaloo over the Legacy Rewards change, PM might just sweeten the pot for long time users due to all the CCTS complaints. 

[NoseyNick1]

That's PLENTY of calls/texts for me, but... no data? If i want a bit of data, not a lot, probably 250-300MB of data a month, am I better on the $15 plan, or $13 + occasional data add-on?

[Stelawrat]

---

@wetcoaster wrote:  As always, if you change out of a grandfathered plan that is not available in the current plan line-up anymore, access to it is lost forever. 

Thank you for this reminder. o/

---

[RetiredGuy1]

Fair enough. I noticed you edited your previous post with the qualifier about “until they personally screw you over at least” while I was replying so I didn’t see that. I posted weeks ago that one of the main reasons I joined PM in the first place was because of bad personal experiences I’ve had with both Bell and Rogers (I know you’ve said you’ve read every post but I’m not suggesting in any way that you could be expected to remember them).

I agree we can all only do our part and that it would be naive to think by not buying a phone that suddenly conditions in third-world countries would necessarily improve as a result. Of course, if one were on a hell-bent mission to do so then they could downgrade to a talk-only plan that includes only their immediate neighbours with no monthly charges and a minimal investment…..you take two cans and a very large spool of string…..😆

[Wolfcore]

Well, it's different when you're personally screwed over in my opinion. You can "hear" a lot of things about a company from other people, but until a company actually abuses you as a customer personally, it's never the same. Once that abuse happens, it hits different. 

At the end of the day, the MAIN reason for switching should be the money/benefits, and as I've been pointing out across multiple posts, PM's pricing isn't all that great, and for what most people actually need, there's far greater reason to switch to another provider.

But again, people will do what they want with their money. I know I've personally stated that I'd be willing to pay a bit more money to a competitor for the same service as PM, just because of how PM treated me with this decision. So ethics do play a role for me, but in a more direct/personal sense, at least in this case. I feel that's the only way you can really go, because how far do you wanna stretch that? Do you wanna stretch it to the children mining cobalt in horrendous conditions to create the batteries used in the very phone you're using? Probably not. Most people are only willing to be morally consistent to an extent.

[eyes]

Just noticed that when I logged in the  pop-up advising of the switch to the points in may is no longer. Has something happened?

Sorry - just logged in again and the dreaded pop-up —- popped up again. 

[RetiredGuy1]

Yeah, you’re right. I did say Freedom and Fizz were my options at this point for that very fact (get out from the clutches of the Big 3). Of course, one day it might become the Big 4 and they’ll be no better. But, using the same logic - if one can say “bad” things about nearly all of them - then why bother switching?

[Wolfcore]

Hate to break it to you, but if that's your concern, Telus is no better:

August 4, 2023:

---

---

Telecommunications giant Telus says it is trimming 6,000 jobs, citing its need to free up cash flow and remain competitive.

---

February 22, 2024:

---

---

Telus continues to shed jobs at a record pace

---

February 21, 2020

---

---

Telus CEO threatens 5,000 job cuts if forced to sell access to wireless networks

---

2019 Sometime

---

---

In total, some 3,390 jobs were cut across the "big three" operators in 2019, a figure that equals about 2.3% of total headcount

---

This is why you shouldn't bring politics and "ethics" into discussions regarding billion-dollar corporations in my opinion (until they personally screw you over at least). Because it'll be nearly possibly for you to remain consistent and not delve into hypocrisy of some sort. You can spend your money however you'd like of course, but just saying that these "bad" things can be said about nearly all of them.

[RetiredGuy1]

Like all carriers, coverage and resulting reception depends very much where you live/location of towers. Its been said many times in here that Freedom or Fizz is not for everyone as they’re newer carriers currently expanding across the country. So, for many it would be more worthwhile to wait until they’re more established before even considering a switch. For me in Ottawa, my research has indicated that I should be okay right now. Perhaps you missed the $149 annual plan that works out to $14 (tax in) per month for an average of 2.5 GB at 4G speed (30GB allotment per year).

[eyes]

Well said! ——-“I’m happy with the reliability that PMs coverage has provided so I need to consider that.”. ————-I like you will not jump ship simply because I’m unhappy with PM switching us to the point system. One has to consider all factors.