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robot and community support not good enough - need help - @moderator_team

Zargon
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

hello, how many hours am i supposed to lose trying to fix my issue? @CS_Agent

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Leaving
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

@DonForgo wrote:

Looks like mypost is deleted. Retyping, 

 

@Zargon 

In short, it is unfortunate, but it is the lack of 'service' that allows for the plans to be this economical.

Compared to Telus/Rogers/Bell who all hire thousands of call centre representatives across Canada and overseas, which carries salaries, tables, chairs, pens, papers, lightbulbs, toilet paper, coffee cups, water machines, benefits, air conditioning (Philipines has a HUGE Telus call centre), and all the systems administrators, the HR and Finance supported needed for this many employees, all the management staff, and their management staff, and their management staff, and repeat for another few layers. 

Then you add on marketing, Rogers spent billions for the NHL rights, Telus and Bell also both have massive marketing campaigns, where do these money all come from? The consumers' wallet. 

So that is why the plans have difference in costs, and that is why Public Mobile is able to offer plans starting at $15 a month, auto pay takes off $2? Because they can average less cost in billing department answer phone calls to take $15 from you. Loyalty discount up to $5 per month? That's because they would retain you as a customer instead of having to spend money on marketing to attract a new customer to replace you leaving. Refer a friend discount? Same thing. 

Until CRTC mandates each carrier to offer easily, readily, accessible, call centre representatives with full support, carriers like Public Mobile, Chatr, Lucky, and many other virtual operators and resellers will continue to exist. 

But if CRTC mandates it, the rates will go higher, because costs. 
People want an App for Public Mobile, there's development costs, mantainance costs, upkeep costs. People want a faster and better website, there's costs on that. 

People want unthrottled speeds? There's costs in that as the service is ran off Telus's system, the throttled speeds ensures that Telus/Koodo customers maintain their speeds. 

Everything comes down to costs, but unfortunately, this also means cutting services that people that are not as tech savvy require, and be forced to switch to a mid tier provider such as Koodo, Fido and Virgin. 

If you feel that you would benefit from consistent customer service, and reliable call centres to resolve your issues, I would suggest you to consider Koodo, since Koodo and Public Mobile are both owned by Telus, there could be a migration offer for switching to Koodo. 


Enough BS. People just want a basic website that works. Why are there so many condescending people on here that sound like shills?  If websites don't work and the credit autopay system is buggy and PM won't properly fix things, they need to provide support even if it's online. 48 hours without mobile phone service is too long. 

 

Everyone knows these companies are owned by the big three and thus have crippled speeds and prepaid deals. Yes, they are cheaper but can't they invest in a half decent computer system. People have problems with websites, vouchers and their autopay system. It's not just isolated cases. I read a lot of concerns and problems here.

@DonForgo  Apparently they got rid of that section 2 or 3 years ago but it still exists somewhere in the background of your profile. The link is a god send for the few of us that suffer with this affliction. Welcome to the club....or should i say quarantine?

DonForgo
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

@darlicious wrote:

Keep that link...its handy to have since that bug particularly likes long, well thought out posts that are difficult to reproduce with their original expression.


It is so strange why that link cannot be accessed from My Profile.

Cutting corners and using some outsourced service does that I guess. 
I mean, in my profile I can still link my ICQ, that tells you how old this system probably is. 

And again, that relates back to the topic, how costs are cut to have cheap plans for consumers. 

Keep that link...its handy to have since that bug particularly likes long, well thought out posts that are difficult to reproduce with their original expression.

DonForgo
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

@darlicious 

 

LOL it is there! i just deleted it, cause, well, i wrote another post anyways



 

@DonForgo  Ok fingers crossed...you can find your *poof* post here


@ShawnC13 wrote:

@darlicious wrote:

@DonForgo  When responding to a user who puts personal info ie phone # in a post avoid quoting it or personally edit the quoted info and replace with xxx xxx xxxx.

@ShawnC13  Can you edit ph# out again. Thx


@darlicious , I made the edit to the quote just after you tagged me.  Not sure where the post went now as I can't delete


@ShawnC13  Thanks for the response...while I was still typing mine. I didn't think Oracle's could delete. Definitely that rare bug...i have lots of experience with that.

 

Edit: @ShawnC13  yes sorry! I'm a minute off the pace posting a hare (pun intended) behind you.


@darlicious wrote:

@DonForgo  It looks like @ShawnC13  may have removed your post instesd of editing out the phone number but that may not be the case because he would normally tell you any actions he takes. You could have caught the rare *poof* the magic dragon disappearing post bug. I suffer from this affliction as well. Which means it's in your unmoderated items that is only accessible thru a link which is in my profile somewhere. And I underperform at this task so be patient with my attempts to provide it.


I can't delete any posts I didn't remove anything

 


I am happy to help, but I am not a Customer Support Agent please do not include any personal info in a message to me. Click HERE to create a trouble ticket through SIMon the Chatbot *

DonForgo
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

@darlicious 

Don't worry about it, and bugs exists because of low budget implementations, which kinda does relate to the topic. 

Smiley Happy

@DonForgo  It looks like @ShawnC13  may have removed your post instesd of editing out the phone number but that may not be the case because he would normally tell you any actions he takes. You could have caught the rare *poof* the magic dragon disappearing post bug. I suffer from this affliction as well. Which means it's in your unmoderated items that is only accessible thru a link which is in my profile somewhere. And I underperform at this task so be patient with my attempts to provide it.


@darlicious wrote:

@DonForgo  When responding to a user who puts personal info ie phone # in a post avoid quoting it or personally edit the quoted info and replace with xxx xxx xxxx.

@ShawnC13  Can you edit ph# out again. Thx


@darlicious , I made the edit to the quote just after you tagged me.  Not sure where the post went now as I can't delete

 


I am happy to help, but I am not a Customer Support Agent please do not include any personal info in a message to me. Click HERE to create a trouble ticket through SIMon the Chatbot *

DonForgo
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

Looks like mypost is deleted. Retyping, 

 

@Zargon 

In short, it is unfortunate, but it is the lack of 'service' that allows for the plans to be this economical.

Compared to Telus/Rogers/Bell who all hire thousands of call centre representatives across Canada and overseas, which carries salaries, tables, chairs, pens, papers, lightbulbs, toilet paper, coffee cups, water machines, benefits, air conditioning (Philipines has a HUGE Telus call centre), and all the systems administrators, the HR and Finance supported needed for this many employees, all the management staff, and their management staff, and their management staff, and repeat for another few layers. 

Then you add on marketing, Rogers spent billions for the NHL rights, Telus and Bell also both have massive marketing campaigns, where do these money all come from? The consumers' wallet. 

So that is why the plans have difference in costs, and that is why Public Mobile is able to offer plans starting at $15 a month, auto pay takes off $2? Because they can average less cost in billing department answer phone calls to take $15 from you. Loyalty discount up to $5 per month? That's because they would retain you as a customer instead of having to spend money on marketing to attract a new customer to replace you leaving. Refer a friend discount? Same thing. 

Until CRTC mandates each carrier to offer easily, readily, accessible, call centre representatives with full support, carriers like Public Mobile, Chatr, Lucky, and many other virtual operators and resellers will continue to exist. 

But if CRTC mandates it, the rates will go higher, because costs. 
People want an App for Public Mobile, there's development costs, mantainance costs, upkeep costs. People want a faster and better website, there's costs on that. 

People want unthrottled speeds? There's costs in that as the service is ran off Telus's system, the throttled speeds ensures that Telus/Koodo customers maintain their speeds. 

Everything comes down to costs, but unfortunately, this also means cutting services that people that are not as tech savvy require, and be forced to switch to a mid tier provider such as Koodo, Fido and Virgin. 

If you feel that you would benefit from consistent customer service, and reliable call centres to resolve your issues, I would suggest you to consider Koodo, since Koodo and Public Mobile are both owned by Telus, there could be a migration offer for switching to Koodo. 

@DonForgo  When responding to a user who puts personal info ie phone # in a post avoid quoting it or personally edit the quoted info and replace with xxx xxx xxxx.

@ShawnC13  Can you edit ph# out again. Thx

@Zargon  I know it's hard to explain your phone issue when you're used to being able to explain it by talking to someone. But let us see if we can help resolve it or give you easy step by step instructions to contact a moderator who are public mobile customer service agents.  If you have speak to text (the microphone icon on your search bar or keyboard) press on that and speak as clearly and slowly as possible and it will help you to explain your problem to us a little easier than typing it out. Dont despair we can help and/or get you in contact with an employee of public mobile. Were here for you.

You should edit the Phone number in your quote, @DonForgo .


To remove your personal information, find your original post. Click on the three dots in the top right corner and choose "Edit Reply." From there just delete the information or use X's or # signs to show where it would have been.

PAULRANG18
Deputy Mayor / Adjoint au Maire

It seems the member joined PM a good while back but never registered an account. Apparently, there was a call centre back then. No longer. Must not have used account much at all to only find this out now. Hope moderator can help and resolve issues.

DonForgo
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

@Zargon wrote:

Techinically 5 weeks

Jim *** *** ****

 


Jim, 

 

I do not work for Public Mobile, or their parent company Telus. 

It is unfortunate that you have a negative experience with the current situation at Public Mobile, the brand was created to be budget friendly, and thus, cuts costs where they can. 

Such as having a basic account management portal, a basic website, mostly self serve, and not having a call centre to resolve issues for customers, as most issues are straight forward self resolved. 

A call centre has costs, Telus employs call centre representatives in Canada, and also overseas, but they all have costs. Every light bulb, toilet paper, coffee cup, pen, heating, and all the administrative and upper level staff has costs. And that is a significant portion of why Public Mobile plans are more economical compared to Rogers/Telus/Bell. 

Yes, it is unfair, but that is the game. Until CRTC enforces that every carrier must have call centre support, these budget carriers will exist and provide an option to consumers that do not require support. 

If you do happen to require continual support, and would like to speak to someone consistenly over the phone, then the value brands such as Koodo might be suiting your needs better. Koodo is owned by Telus as well, same parent company as Public Mobile. 
You might want to head to a kiosk and see if they have any migration offers, to switch from Public Mobile into Koodo, for better plans. 

 

 


@Zargon wrote:

I wasnt notified that not only losing phone support but that there is no optuion to have it again. I recieved no notifiication of this, wasterd hours of time last 5 weeks trying top contact and correct this. Can exoplain more to real person, this is beyond ridicul;ous, more liek corporate cruelty to naive public


Are you a Legacy customer that had phone support?  When the phone support was removed there were many threads here and we *existing customers* were told that all legacy customers would be contacted about this change.  Unfortunately with only having created your community account today whatever you have done for the last 5 weeks went nowhere.

Click this link https://publicmobile.ca.ada.support/chat/ and enter your question into SIMon.  Follow the prompts to get to the Contact Us button and then a Submit Ticket button will appear.

 

Community Moderators are available from Monday-Friday 8 am(Eastern) to 12 am(Eastern) and Saturday, and Sunday from 8 am(Eastern) to 10 pm(Eastern)

 

More info on moderators

 


I am happy to help, but I am not a Customer Support Agent please do not include any personal info in a message to me. Click HERE to create a trouble ticket through SIMon the Chatbot *

Zargon
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

Techinically 5 weeks

Jim *** *** ****

 

EDITED BY ShawnC removed phone number

 

Maybe you could explain your issue and we'll try to help you sooner.

Zargon
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

I wasnt notified that not only losing phone support but that there is no optuion to have it again. I recieved no notifiication of this, wasterd hours of time last 5 weeks trying top contact and correct this. Can exoplain more to real person, this is beyond ridicul;ous, more liek corporate cruelty to naive public

MoreYummy
Mayor / Maire

What is your issue?  maybe someone here to help little?

 

Did you send in your request to the staff?

ShawnC13
Oracle
Oracle

@Zargon wrote:

hello, how many hours am i supposed to lose trying to fix my issue? @CS_Agent


It can take up to 48 hours for support to get back to you.  How long have you been waiting now?

 


I am happy to help, but I am not a Customer Support Agent please do not include any personal info in a message to me. Click HERE to create a trouble ticket through SIMon the Chatbot *

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