Hi,
So I have an iPhone SE and I noticed when in the cold weather the phone shuts down, I Googled it and found that iPhones shutting down in cold weather is actually quite common. I'm here to ask you if you are an iPhone user if you have experienced this. If you have how do you deal with it? Surely you want to take your phone outside in any weather and having your phone shut down is rather inconvenient when your phone is supposed to be there for your convenience.
@Obice wrote:I have had an iPhone 5s that I personally removed the old battery from and replaced it with a battery off eBay.
I'm really not prepared to pay Apple or any company for that matter over $50 just to replace something that should already be removable. Alas, I'm starting to waste my breathe it seems.
Ooooops. Sorry I was mis thinking again!!! Absolutely YES, there are 2 double faced strips holding the battery secure. I was thinking about the newer phones above SE that the screen is also double face taped in too. Where as the 5 5S and SE screens are only held in by 2 tongues at the top, friction devices on the side and 2 screws on the bottom.
@darlicious wrote:@Obice With all the technology that surrounds us on a daily basis nowadays I don't know how you even survive in today's world. I thought I was pulled into the 21st century kicking and screaming well maybe more smashy smashy and a whole lot of swearing. But if your not careful you're going to be needing dentures in no time! The made to last generation is going by the wayside. Unfortunately the vast majority of people are part of a "green" disposable society.
You actually bring up another point which I'd rather not get into but since we're already in deep, might as well.
As seen with the release of the new Google Pixel 4 and 4 XL, Google has decided to release the phone along with their other products as "mostly" recycled. A lot of people probably think "Oh good! They are recycling! That's excellente for the environment!"
Here's why I'm not shouting the same glee from the rooftops. Yes, they are recycled. Yes, that's amazing for the environment. But no, that's unacceptable to me that they are selling us recycled goods at the SAME HIGH PRICES as the sh** that isn't recycled. They are selling us garbage (almost literally) for a fortune and we still pay for it! 
I have never seen such a scam as that in my entire life.
How do I survive? Well, thankfully I don't do much on my smartphone so I can manage.
@Obice wrote:I have had an iPhone 5s that I personally removed the old battery from and replaced it with a battery off eBay.
I'm really not prepared to pay Apple or any company for that matter over $50 just to replace something that should already be removable. Alas, I'm starting to waste my breathe it seems.
I agree... batteries are consumables, and consumables should be easily replaced with no special skills, tools, etc. It's insane what effort is involved when replacing batteries on things like iPads.
The first time I let Apple replace my battery instead of doing it myself was last year when Apple offered their battery warranty replacement program ($29+GST), which covered the iPhone SE. After that, I became convinced that genuine Apple batteries are actually worth the extra money -- you know they'll perform to spec. It's just too bad that buying a battery from Apple or an authorized repair center to replace yourself isn't an option they offer (AFAIK, but then I haven't checked).
If I have to buy 4-5 different aftermarket batteries from different sellers on eBay to hopefully find a really good one, I may as well spend the extra and buy 1 Apple branded battery and know it'll be good. Even if it means the Apple battery will only outperform the aftermarket by 1-2 hours each day for me is enough to sway me to choose that route.
I have had an iPhone 5s that I personally removed the old battery from and replaced it with a battery off eBay.
I'm really not prepared to pay Apple or any company for that matter over $50 just to replace something that should already be removable. Alas, I'm starting to waste my breathe it seems.
@CalgaryBen wrote:
@Obice wrote:The battery health is supposedly 86% so I don't see a need to change it. It is clearly just not worth my time or patience to bother with.
Just for additional feedback... I personally find using a phone below around 92-94% painful, because it doesn't last a full day for me! Apple says you don't need to replace until 80%, but it really depends on your usage habits and tolerance.
Anyway, since the back of the iPhone is aluminum and a good conductor of heat/cold, and it's in direct contact with the battery, if it's cold, the battery is cold. And when the battery is cold, its performance deteriorates. If I'm out for a while (e.g. shoveling snow, etc.), I'll often put my phone in my jeans pockets so the back is against my body (normally, I prefer having the glass facing my body to minimize risk of shattering, etc.). I used to use an external battery charger case which also worked well to insulate the phone and internal battery, plus charge if needed since charging warms the battery.
For Apple to replace the battery ($65+GST), is quite reasonable if you want reliability. This will get you an authentic Apple battery with some warranty, and they'll generally replace your device if they break it during the process (rare, but it can happen) as long as it hasn't been monkeyed with.
While I know you've stated you don't have the time/patience to replace the battery yourself, I just wanted to provide some info for anybody else wanting to do this. As others have cited, changing your battery yourself relatively easy (hardest part for me is pulling the adhesive -- think removal of 3M Command strips, but much thinner and prone to breakage -- I seem to break the strips 75% of the time). If you can find an authentic Apple battery at/near 100%, all the better (if looking on eBay, sometimes sellers will indicate these being pulled from damaged iPhones) but they're hard to find, and unfortunately sellers overuse/misuse the words "genuine" and "OEM". I don't believe Apple will sell you just a battery without doing the installation.
If you buy an aftermarket battery from eBay, you'll almost always end up with a battery that's less than the specified 1624 mAh (iPhone SE) that the Apple battery provides. But at $10-15, it's an option!
I recently bought 2 aftermarket batteries from eBay, and compared to a new genuine Apple battery. All showed 100% in the iPhone SE's Battery Health page. All tests were performed on the same physical iPhone SE (with no cell service and all background apps terminated where possible), using an app called Geekbench 4 (current version is 5) -- it's probably the gold standard for iOS device benchmarks. Anway it basically keeps the CPU at/near 100%, and records the battery percentage until the phone finally turns off. It then assigns a score to the battery, which is approximately the longevity of the fully-charged battery until the phone shuts off (in minutes) X 10. Here were my results:
The above shows that the first new battery lasted ~102 minutes, the second new battery lasted ~130 minutes, and the genuine Apple battery lasted ~182 minutes on a full charge before the iPhone SE shut off. Assuming the Apple battery truly has a capacity of 1624 mAh when new, the aftermarket ones had (1020/1820)*1624 mAh = 910 mAh and (1301/1820)*1624 mAh = 1161 mAh, respectively. Both were labeled as 1624 mAh.
Anyway, just sharing some first-hand information that others may benefit from...
On an iPhone SE there are NO glue strips!!! One of the last iPhones without double face tape that needs to be heated before attempting to remove glass and digitizer. I have redone at least 8 batteries. No problem and longevity outlasted their life with me.
@Obice wrote:The battery health is supposedly 86% so I don't see a need to change it. It is clearly just not worth my time or patience to bother with.
Just for additional feedback... I personally find using a phone below around 92-94% painful, because it doesn't last a full day for me! Apple says you don't need to replace until 80%, but it really depends on your usage habits and tolerance.
Anyway, since the back of the iPhone is aluminum and a good conductor of heat/cold, and it's in direct contact with the battery, if it's cold, the battery is cold. And when the battery is cold, its performance deteriorates. If I'm out for a while (e.g. shoveling snow, etc.), I'll often put my phone in my jeans pockets so the back is against my body (normally, I prefer having the glass facing my body to minimize risk of shattering, etc.). I used to use an external battery charger case which also worked well to insulate the phone and internal battery, plus charge if needed since charging warms the battery.
For Apple to replace the battery ($65+GST), is quite reasonable if you want reliability. This will get you an authentic Apple battery with some warranty, and they'll generally replace your device if they break it during the process (rare, but it can happen) as long as it hasn't been monkeyed with.
While I know you've stated you don't have the time/patience to replace the battery yourself, I just wanted to provide some info for anybody else wanting to do this. As others have cited, changing your battery yourself relatively easy (hardest part for me is pulling the adhesive -- think removal of 3M Command strips, but much thinner and prone to breakage -- I seem to break the strips 75% of the time). If you can find an authentic Apple battery at/near 100%, all the better (if looking on eBay, sometimes sellers will indicate these being pulled from damaged iPhones) but they're hard to find, and unfortunately sellers overuse/misuse the words "genuine" and "OEM". I don't believe Apple will sell you just a battery without doing the installation.
If you buy an aftermarket battery from eBay, you'll almost always end up with a battery that's less than the specified 1624 mAh (iPhone SE) that the Apple battery provides. But at $10-15, it's an option!
I recently bought 2 aftermarket batteries from eBay, and compared to a new genuine Apple battery. All showed 100% in the iPhone SE's Battery Health page. All tests were performed on the same physical iPhone SE (with no cell service and all background apps terminated where possible), using an app called Geekbench 4 (current version is 5) -- it's probably the gold standard for iOS device benchmarks. Anway it basically keeps the CPU at/near 100%, and records the battery percentage until the phone finally turns off. It then assigns a score to the battery, which is approximately the longevity of the fully-charged battery until the phone shuts off (in minutes) X 10. Here were my results:
The above shows that the first new battery lasted ~102 minutes, the second new battery lasted ~130 minutes, and the genuine Apple battery lasted ~182 minutes on a full charge before the iPhone SE shut off. Assuming the Apple battery truly has a capacity of 1624 mAh when new, the aftermarket ones had (1020/1820)*1624 mAh = 910 mAh and (1301/1820)*1624 mAh = 1161 mAh, respectively. Both were labeled as 1624 mAh.
Anyway, just sharing some first-hand information that others may benefit from...
@Obice wrote:Hi,
So I have an iPhone SE and I noticed when in the cold weather the phone shuts down, I Googled it and found that iPhones shutting down in cold weather is actually quite common. I'm here to ask you if you are an iPhone user if you have experienced this. If you have how do you deal with it? Surely you want to take your phone outside in any weather and having your phone shut down is rather inconvenient when your phone is supposed to be there for your convenience.
Some times I see here that folks are self inflicting themselves. So if you are will to read and take your phone out......here are some options to reduce your battery consumption. And once you are travelling...turn off wife (no no not wife....I meant Wi-Fi)....your phone keeps searching and searching. So please click or press here.
I'm not sure if advertising is allowed on here, my guess is it's not or frowned upon.
I'll just say I might sell my iPhone since I'm not too caring of it and I could use the money any way, so if you're in Ontario and browse Kijiji you might find mine on there soon. 
