03-06-2024 11:07 AM - last edited on 03-09-2024 12:32 PM by ShawnC13
Hey Community,
We have an important announcement to share with our subscribers who are currently enrolled in our old Rewards program.
We’re making changes to our rewards program and are sharing how these changes impact some of our subscribers. Starting in May, we’ll be retiring our old Rewards program and moving all subscribers to our Public Points™ program.
We launched the Public Points™ program in January 2022 to provide our subscribers with more ways to earn and spend rewards, with greater flexibility. As part of our commitment to continuously evolve our products and services, it's time to retire our old Rewards program and shift our focus on enhancing our Points program.
To show our appreciation for your continued loyalty, subscribers on our old Rewards program will receive a special thank you. We'll send you a text message when it has been added to your account by March 31st.
We’re excited to continue providing you, our valued subscribers, more opportunities to earn and spend rewards with Public Points™ moving forward.
To learn more about your move to Public Points, check out our FAQ here.
The Public Mobile Team
03-21-2024 12:00 PM
03-21-2024 11:49 AM
@eyes You haven't made investments of time, goodwill, or even monetary considerations to promote those businesses profits or subscriber base - the analogy doesn't speak to the issues at hand. Nobody is denying inflation and increases are expected however, this increase represents hundreds to thousandths of percent increases to the plans that some worked toward establishing. Before anybody pipes back with a 'woe is me' comment, don't bother. You have your opinion and that's fine but you're not the one being affected to that degree and it's not likely you spent the hours, goodwill, and material assets to achieve that lower priced cell plan.
The discounts have become established ,in part, as consideration for building a loyal subscriber base, end of story. Many loyalty programs eventually devalue their liabilities (accounts payable) and screw over their patrons however rarely to this degree. It's all completely misguided and mismanaged. Inflation is supposed to hit the plan prices, not the discounts for those loyal patrons who earned that consideration. One might even be comfortable with having the 5 year loyalty discount changed in nature to fit the new program but they're not doing that - they are simply erasing it and the motivation for some long term subscribers. I've lost one of my referrals that was over 4 years old and for every one more that leaves (and there will likely be many more) than this whole thing gets even worse for those who invested in building those referrals.
Yes things change but generally speaking - you can't expect people to be happy with being 'cheated' out of an expected cell plan price established for many years and a discount that is actually capped at 5 and doesn't substantively affect the Telus bottom line. Their loyalty program was established long ago and has had some changes even before I joined however, it has always been a substantive, defined, and marketed incentive for the plans offered to lure subscribers and engage referral work but more than that, may constitute a 'contract' of consideration for services rendered in bringing friends and family over to PM. Yes of course they have lawyers and feel confident in their actions to change in the interests of increasing ARPU/ARMU to appease shareholders and secure pay bonuses/incentives at the c-suite level, but when a company uses the letters of contract law to reverse longstanding considerations which stretch beyond the simple concept of a loyalty program, well, that's why there are other lawyers, class-action law suits, CCTS, CRTC, and good old fashion protests. In the face of 'K*rens' who like to participate in a thread that doesn't apply to them or company shills who serve to censor or diminish the voices here, there is a strong contempt among a very great number of people who will be affected by a variable increase to their monthly budgets. On a yearly basis that looks like $84 - 5% of plan cost but what few are realizing is that there will be further substantive increases when their referrals leave because of this. Those referred may only be losing $2-$7/month but it's motivation enough to seek other providers.
Now, consider this strategy (no I'm not a conspiracist but) so insidious that the intent to some degree is to drive that referral base away only to then lure them back with some other promise! It's a simple and very well established principle in business, it costs far more money to earn a new subscriber than to keep a loyal one. It costs even more when you consider that PM is losing advocates, promoters, and forum support 'staff' (a title applicable to those members who spend hours in these forums supporting other users for a monetary consideration on their upcoming bills).
03-21-2024 10:57 AM - edited 03-21-2024 11:04 AM
Let’s face it, PM would not have proceeded unless they were sure they were in their legal right to do so. However, there is room to make an adjustment that does not impact them financially - scrap the need to accumulate 15 points before redemption AND then forcing the subscriber to manually apply it themselves. They could at least retain the automatic application of rewards against each monthly bill.
03-21-2024 10:16 AM
Public Mobile didn't give me 5GB bonus as the email promised. I was on the $15 plan when I received the email and my plan renewed to the Can-US plan as scheduled on Monday. Yesterday I got a text that I had been gifted 240GB by PM. Now I will lose the bonus if I change plans, I was kind of hoping for the 5GB bonus that's compatible with all plans so I could switch freely. I can't believe how elaborately they have programmed this bonus. I miss the no strings attached add-ons of the past.
03-21-2024 08:40 AM
Not yet. My complaint with CCTS was just filed. I'm waiting for Public Mobile to respond.
03-21-2024 08:08 AM
03-21-2024 07:32 AM
Did we get our rewards back yet?
03-21-2024 01:09 AM
Interesting that PM censors these forums deleting any posts which speak to the utter contempt for this betrayal. People have been loyal to you PM and now you're going to trample on that goodwill.... CCTS has taken my complaint on, PM has made an initial response, and I plan to take it as far as I can. Similar to others, the program transcended one of 'loyalty' to that of compensation or a contract for building a subscriber base with the offer of a lower cost plan.... the years of tenure bonus is included in that consideration with a long term commitment to this company both personally and with the trust and goodwill spent to bring family and friends over to PM. I'm left with no words but 'disgusting' to describe the greed and betrayal. This is effectively a massive increase to the contract cost of a monthly plan to many people. CCTS has taken it on but they are limited in power (effectively none) -- the CRTC needs to hear from us as well. This isn't just the loss or amendment of a loyalty program - a 'business operation' that PM is justified in changing but rather a significantly larger consideration for the effort and costs many incurred to establish themselves with a lower cost plan.
03-21-2024 12:50 AM
moved to the lounge: unrelated to Public Mobile
03-20-2024 10:12 PM
Yes, only calling. This is not better for people that have roaming. But if you don't use a lot of data 29$ for 25GB is a pretty good deal. Just posting options.
03-20-2024 10:09 PM
In that PC plan is it just calls from Canada to the USA or free roaming in the USA like Public Mobile?
Free USA roaming is important to me.
03-20-2024 10:08 PM
PC Mobile
$29.00/mo
5G
20 GBIncluded Data
25 GBTotal data including auto top-up bonus*
Unlimited Calls Canada-wide and to the US
Canada & International text, picture and video messages from Canada
Call Display, 3-Way Calling, Voicemail, Call Waiting and Call Forwarding
Up to 10% of the value of every Top-Up in PC Optimum™ points
Earn 20,000 PC Optimum™ points after 2 months of service
03-20-2024 10:06 PM
Not everyone jumped onto that plan. You can also go to PC mobile
$34
.00/mo
5G
50 GBIncluded Data
55 GBTotal data including auto top-up bonus*
Unlimited Calls Canada-wide and to the US
Canada & International text, picture and video messages from Canada
Call Display, 3-Way Calling, Voicemail, Call Waiting and Call Forwarding
Up to 10% of the value of every Top-Up in PC Optimum™ points
Earn 20,000 PC Optimum™ points after 2 months of service
03-20-2024 09:59 PM
@Mike-B wrote:Currently public doesn't offer 5GB of bonus data and USA calling.
@Mike-B - Yeah, but the third tier carriers just got into big data plans about a year ago. Plus I got myself a sweet tea plan for US roaming when it was available. $34 for 50GB Canada - US. Calling also works. Been Rick-Rolling myself on it and always getting the LD charges may apply. 🙂
You can quickly abolish 1/3 of that with the points system with 1000 US LD minutes for 10 points.
03-20-2024 09:55 PM
Currently public doesn't offer 5GB of bonus data and USA calling.
03-20-2024 09:55 PM
Disappointed to hear this and, unfortunately, a one-time data add on (that will expire) isn't going to make up for it. I've been a loyal customer for several years and was not happy when the data add-ons were given an expiry date. This just keeps going to show me that Public Mobile isn't interested in retaining long term customers like myself.
03-20-2024 09:52 PM
Okay, so same price as Freedom and Public Mobile, so why switch?
03-20-2024 09:48 PM
Lucky mobile thru Costco
Unlimited Canada-wide & US Talk Plan + 50GB at 4G Speeds
Bonus
Get 5 GB of bonus data every month with Automatic Top-Up
03-20-2024 09:43 PM
03-20-2024 09:13 PM
Thanks, but that doesn’t answer most of my questions about the transition itself. It appears that users are being moved to the new system without any of the preexisting transition bonuses. It is also unclear regarding what happens to already consumed bonus data if we downgrade plans during the 150 days: ie if we use 20gb in the first month and downgrade our plan for the remaining 120 days, will we be on the hook for paying for that data we are no longer eligible for, or will it be considered a wash and simply be cut off as of the date of the cheaper plan taking effect?
03-20-2024 08:40 PM
@ziggyp31 wrote:Hi all.
Sorry for what is probably a silly question, but how do I cancel my plan? Do I simply stop paying and it automatically cancels? I do not see the actual option. I am planning to cancel at the end of my billing cycle and am unsure how. I have had Public Mobile forever and have no idea how to simply end my subscription.
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
PM changes don't happen in May, so you don't need to make a decision right away. You can do some research to see which options would meet your needs better.
If you want to keep your phone number, you can port your PM number to another company and that would close your PM account. Or if you don't want to keep your present number, you can turn off your subscription (turn off preauthorized payments). Once your account is suspended more than 90 days, you account will be permanently closed and number lost.
03-20-2024 08:04 PM
Hi all.
Sorry for what is probably a silly question, but how do I cancel my plan? Do I simply stop paying and it automatically cancels? I do not see the actual option. I am planning to cancel at the end of my billing cycle and am unsure how. I have had Public Mobile forever and have no idea how to simply end my subscription.
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
03-20-2024 07:42 PM
Its disappointing that they hamfisted this through despite the backlash.
It seems that most people I know received far less than the 240GB initially mentioned. I only got 5GB. Oh well, brings the termination date closer for all the accounts under my management. My colleagues will be leaving as well.
Public mobile is not even competitive anymore with all the missing features and phone whitelists and system glitches. We live with it due to the price, but not anymore.
Cheers
03-20-2024 07:41 PM
@RetiredGuy1 wrote:First, I believe there is no such thing as a stupid question throughout a life long journey to learn!
From reading forums on sites such as RedFlagDeals and Reddit, I’ve seen people have success in having new activation fees waived and getting free sim cards. With prices so competitive, I doubt you will get cost adjustments and I’ve never heard of a competitor honouring accumulated data so thats pretty much a no-go.
Don’t feel bad. Many, many years ago when I bought my first laptop, after installing Windows from a floppy disk, I spent a long time staring at the keyboard looking for the “any” key to continue 🤣
@RetiredGuy1 - Usually they will waive the fee if they feel generous or for a Win-Back offer.
But haha! That's funny! 🤣
03-20-2024 06:38 PM
First, I believe there is no such thing as a stupid question throughout a life long journey to learn!
From reading forums on sites such as RedFlagDeals and Reddit, I’ve seen people have success in having new activation fees waived and getting free sim cards. With prices so competitive, I doubt you will get cost adjustments and I’ve never heard of a competitor honouring accumulated data so thats pretty much a no-go.
Don’t feel bad. Many, many years ago when I bought my first laptop, after installing Windows from a floppy disk, I spent a long time staring at the keyboard looking for the “any” key to continue 🤣
03-20-2024 06:11 PM
HI @IanP
do you mean if PM price matches other? No, they don't
if you mean if anyone price match PM, possible. Or more like they might have similar price or able to give you a one time credit/discount
03-20-2024 06:09 PM
I was always told there was no such thing as a stupid question!
But here is one anyway.
Does anyone know if any competitor price matches like stores do? Cost and accumulated data bonuses?
Have 270 gb , wife has 290gb.
I know know, I am an idiot for asking but maybe you got a chuckle out of it. A bit of light hearted humor to a depressing subject 😉
03-20-2024 05:56 PM
@JohnDoe3 the price I've paid since last March on my 5 year anniversary has been exactly that, $8 +tax (I have no referrals because most people want someone to talk to if they're having issues).
As for that package being being shown to be sustained package.. I'm sure PM will just say they were losing money on it when rewards were applied.
03-20-2024 05:24 PM
@Robbwell I switched down to that plan a long time ago and when I did I paid an extra $5 for 500 minutes to use as a backup in case my outgoing minutes did exceed 100 minutes in a month. Incoming minutes are free on that plan so as long as you're good for accumulated data.. this plan can work quite easily for someone. Cheers
03-20-2024 03:58 PM
I would agree with that thought, as well. To me, that's the only rationale that makes sense of what they've done to "honour" their loyal subjects.