Cubot X20 - Android 9

[Billy_Montreal]

Hello,

I have an iPhone 6 Plus, with a SIM card from Public Mobile, everthing works properly.

I am trasferring the SIM to a Cubot X20 (Andorid 9)
SMS works both ways

Mobile Data seems to work just fine

Calls cannot go though in either direction.

I have done a reset to the phone, multiple restarts, APN was automatically filled and it's all grey-out (I cannot modified anything) and it seems correct as I've found APN info in this site.

No calls can be made or received,

Any idea if this something that Public Mobile must look into?

Thanks,

Billy

[Luddite]

@Billy_Montreal As data works there is one additional option to those suggested by @srlawren . Use a voip app such as https://www.textnow.com/  or https://www.fongo.com/ with wifi or cellular data. 

[darlicious]

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@srlawren wrote:

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@Billy_Montreal wrote:

Would that mean that is just not compatible at all?

Or is it a matter of chossing a specific 3G or 4G frequency?

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@Billy_Montreal if you're okay without any calling, then this phone is "okay" for use with Public Mobile.  SInce you're here asking, I'm going to assume that you're not okay without calling.  In that case, this phone is quite incompatible.  It was sold for use in another region.  Some phones sold that way have compatible bands anyway, but many don't.

You have these options:

1) Choose a phone that works with PM and continue using PM

2) Use this phone at a provider that offer VoLTE calling with 3rd party phones--don't quote me on this but that might only be Rogers and Fido.  I could be wrong.

3) Use this phone at a provider that operates a 2G GSM network you can use for calling.  That includes Rogers and Fido, and I believe Chatr subscribers also have access to Rogers' GSM network. Do note that Rogers is shutting down their GSM network at the end of 2020 so you have 1 year left in this scenario.

@srlawren  I'm pretty sure the position requires solution sharing along with the income splitting I do believe the benefit package  is quite generous....

[darlicious]

@Billy_Montreal  Check out the Umidigi A5 pro on Amazon.ca similar features but is compatible with pm. Boxing day should see it go back down to cyber Monday pricing $135 cdn all in. Free shipping....comes highly recommended  by many around here.

[Billy_Montreal]

Thank you all for your responses!

I guess no choice then... back to the iPhone for now.

Have a nice evening everyone.

[srlawren · Accepted solution]

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@Billy_Montreal wrote:

Would that mean that is just not compatible at all?

Or is it a matter of chossing a specific 3G or 4G frequency?

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@Billy_Montreal if you're okay without any calling, then this phone is "okay" for use with Public Mobile.  SInce you're here asking, I'm going to assume that you're not okay without calling.  In that case, this phone is quite incompatible.  It was sold for use in another region.  Some phones sold that way have compatible bands anyway, but many don't.

You have these options:

1) Choose a phone that works with PM and continue using PM

2) Use this phone at a provider that offer VoLTE calling with 3rd party phones--don't quote me on this but that might only be Rogers and Fido.  I could be wrong.

3) Use this phone at a provider that operates a 2G GSM network you can use for calling.  That includes Rogers and Fido, and I believe Chatr subscribers also have access to Rogers' GSM network. Do note that Rogers is shutting down their GSM network at the end of 2020 so you have 1 year left in this scenario.

[geopublic]

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@Billy_Montreal wrote:

Would that mean that is just not compatible at all?

Or is it a matter of chossing a specific 3G or 4G frequency?

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@Billy_Montreal  it's not compatible for making/receiving calls.

[darlicious]

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@Ed404 wrote:

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@Billy_Montreal wrote:

New phone only

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The solution to your problem is buy a different phone with the proper bands that Public Mobile supports.

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@Ed404  @Billy_Montreal  I think the solution is put the SIM back in the iPhone return the new phone and do some phone shopping on boxing day.

[darlicious]

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@srlawren wrote:

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@darlicious wrote:

@srlawren  Thanks I was doing a little typing out loud in my brain til I found the frequency  problem for 3G calling.....you did my correcting for me...you should be my editor all the time!

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@darlicious no worries.  Try treating your community posts like you would a business email:  type up a draft and think about it before you click the button.  It's not a perfect system and sometimes I forget not to rush, but it works. 

As for "all the time": I'm afraid I'm not looking for new opportunities at the moment, but I suppose if the compensation were compelling enough I might consider it.  Private message me the job posting and maybe I'll submit you my cv.  

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@srlawrenIt would have to be a job sharing position to start...so income splitting if your ok with two cents worth of my four cents an hour...may be tax free though...

[Billy_Montreal]

Would that mean that is just not compatible at all?

Or is it a matter of chossing a specific 3G or 4G frequency?

[Ed404]

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@Billy_Montreal wrote:

New phone only

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The solution to your problem is buy a different phone with the proper bands that Public Mobile supports.

[Billy_Montreal]

New phone only

[srlawren]

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@darlicious wrote:

@srlawren  Thanks I was doing a little typing out loud in my brain til I found the frequency  problem for 3G calling.....you did my correcting for me...you should be my editor all the time!

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@darlicious no worries.  Try treating your community posts like you would a business email:  type up a draft and think about it before you click the button.  It's not a perfect system and sometimes I forget not to rush, but it works. 

As for "all the time": I'm afraid I'm not looking for new opportunities at the moment, but I suppose if the compensation were compelling enough I might consider it.  Private message me the job posting and maybe I'll submit you my cv.  

[darlicious]

@srlawren  I should just give up on trying to conquer copy and text and just take a photo of everything and upload it. I waste more time fighting with computer skill shortcomings than anything else....its all there in my brain getting it on the screen is the problem.....

[darlicious]

@srlawren  Thanks I was doing a little typing out loud in my brain til I found the frequency  problem for 3G calling.....you did my correcting for me...you should be my editor all the time!

[srlawren]

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@darlicious wrote:

@Billy_Montreal  Have you just ported your number in ? Or just got a new phone?

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@darlicious porting cannot be the issue, since outbound calls are also affected.

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@darlicious wrote:

@Billy_Montreal  APN may not be correct.

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@darlicious APN has absolutely nothing to do with calling

@Billy_Montreal your phone does not have the two needed 3G frequencies (1900MHz "B2" and 850MHz "B5") needed to do calling with Public Mobile.  This phone is a poor choice for use with PM.

[Ed404]

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@darlicious wrote:

@Billy_Montreal  Here are the frequencies  your phone Cubot X20 Pro supports next frequencies: GSM 850 MHz (B5), GSM 900 MHz (B8), GSM 1800 MHz (B3), GSM 1900 MHz (B2), W-CDMA 900 MHz (B19), W-CDMA 2100 MHz (B1), LTE-FDD 800 MHz (B20), LTE-FDD 850 MHz (B19), LTE-FDD 900 MHz (B8), LTE-FDD 1800 MHz (B3), LTE-FDD 2100 MHz (B1), LTE-FDD 2600 MHz (B7)

The minimum pm supports:

• 3G UMTS/W-CDMA/HSPA: B2 (1900) and B5 850  4G FDD-LTE: B4, B12

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This phone has no "real" coverage in Canada, you will need a different device.

[darlicious]

@Billy_Montreal  Here are the frequencies  your phone Cubot X20 Pro supports next frequencies: GSM 850 MHz (B5), GSM 900 MHz (B8), GSM 1800 MHz (B3), GSM 1900 MHz (B2), W-CDMA 900 MHz (B19), W-CDMA 2100 MHz (B1), LTE-FDD 800 MHz (B20), LTE-FDD 850 MHz (B19), LTE-FDD 900 MHz (B8), LTE-FDD 1800 MHz (B3), LTE-FDD 2100 MHz (B1), LTE-FDD 2600 MHz (B7)

The minimum pm supports:

• 3G UMTS/W-CDMA/HSPA: B2 (1900) and B5 850  4G FDD-LTE: B4,  B12                                      Any phone you are considering should ideally have 3G B2, B5 and LTE B4, B12 (or B17 instead of B12) for minimum coverage. If your phone does not have all recommended bands, you may have poor coverage/no service/slow data
  

[darlicious]

@Billy_Montreal  APN may not be correct. This might be a case of it needing to be set via borrowing a freedom SIM card to allow you to make changes. Let me look up...

[darlicious]

@Billy_Montreal  Have you just ported your number in ? Or just got a new phone?