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bashley
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Re: De-Googled Phone & Public Mobility


@Naepalm wrote:

@bashley this is a difficult process for sure one that I have been trying for a long time as well. 

 

One of the first things I changed is what I use to search the web and access andy web pages.

 

Google owns so much of what we touch, there are so many Reddit articles that you can go to for this topic. 

 

So I have two things that you can De-google. One-Stop using Chrome and move over to Brave Browser - an add blocking browser that gives you the capability of getting paid to "allow" advertisements. Now you get paid in BAT tokens but if you have a crypto exchange account this will not be a problem for you.

 

Second - The search engine that you use - Use DUCK DUCK GO, this is a service that doesn't keep track of all your moves.

 

If you really want to de-google though you'll need to stop watching anything on youtube

or watch it through Brave. 😉

 

This thread should probably be in the lounge @Luddite but whatevs. LOL

 


Reassured to see I'm not alone in this de-Googling quest. Comrade! Thanks for the tips. I failed to mention in my original message that I have indeed made the browser and search engine switcheroos away from Chrome and google search. I've compartmentalized my online activities, using different browsers--Vivaldi for subscriptions/mail lists, Brave for general surfing/research, Tor for more sensitive functions, and Firefox with all the monster ad/cookie blockers for YouTube and other distractions. I've deleted all my social media accounts, and ditching Facebook, especially, has been a weight lifted off my shoulders. I may reopen a couple of social media accounts, but take strict measures to limit and discipline my use of them. Also, I'm now using a VPN for certain types of browsing.

 

Privacy and security are becoming ever more ominous everyday. I experienced a pretty serious breach myself (traceable to a Google leak, BTW), and it was a stark wakeup call to take back control. 

bashley
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Re: De-Googled Phone & Public Mobility


@geopublic wrote:

@bashley  If you want to de-Google your phone then your should first de-Samsung it.

 

If that's your intention then best to buy a phone that runs stock Android. Something like a Umidigi F2 and Google 😁 how to de-bloat it. There's a pretty detail website that shows you how to do this.

 

https://www.olorin.me/2020/02/11/debloating-the-umidigi-f2/

 


Thanks for the leads!  I'll check them out. 

JenL
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

Re: De-Googled Phone & Public Mobility

@bashley it is kinda creepy, when you think of how algorithm works. I think it's something that people have to adjust to. Times change and you gotta change with the times. If I'm not mistaken Google de-googled itself. Approximately, a couple years ago they deleted a lot. I wonder if going incognito could be a solution for you. 

gpixel4
Mayor / Maire

Re: De-Googled Phone & Public Mobility

@bashley you can probably remove most apps that are factory installed by using adb commands. this is how I deleted my digital wellbeing app. and Im not rooted or anything.

bashley
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Re: De-Googled Phone & Public Mobility


@gpixel4 wrote:

@bashley you can probably remove most apps that are factory installed by using adb commands. this is how I deleted my digital wellbeing app. and Im not rooted or anything.


Thanks. I'll look into that. It is a partial solution because I don't think this would block access to the phone's IMEI, which gets their foot in the door. My main strategy, phone wise, is to TURN IT OFF!  hehe  I check every day, but I refuse to treat it like a breathing apparatus I have to haul around with me. 

 

The other option is a flip phone. Way cheap and probably fits my lightweight needs. 

 

bob

gpixel4
Mayor / Maire

Re: De-Googled Phone & Public Mobility

@bashley everything is tracked nowadays even the newer flip phones will have something. the best alternative I had was using an old Nokia 8890 slider phone. you would need a provider that uses 2g. maybe chatr would be able too. you need a phone with atleast 3g/hspa for public mobile.

z10user4
Mayor / Maire

Re: De-Googled Phone & Public Mobility

Certainly not saying that I'm anything resembling "all that" but a while ago I went on a non-tracking kick.

Here's what I do. I would certainly be interested in other ideas.

 

This is all about my main laptop computer. I've been using this tablet I'm typing on for a little while. And my phone is Android sooo....but some of the things are on the tablet and phone too.

 

Thunderbird email client - I don't download embedded images or allow Javascript. I actually got an email from a place that I bought something from asking if I was still interested in receiving emails from them. I replied yes. But it tells me that embedded images in emails are being tracked. I also use the SSL access method for POP or IMAP.

 

Firefox - I use Adblocker of course.
I use "HTTPS Everywhere" to make sure the browser picks up an encrypted version of the site.
I turn off Javascript and use Noscript which can be a bit of a bother when just browsing around or wanting to interact with the site so I turn on their own javascript temporarily or if a frequent visitor I leave it on. I fully block ad type scripts and most of Google.
I use "Smart Referrer" so that when I click a link on a page then the next site doesn't know where I came from.
I don't accept 3rd party cookies and I control which site cookies I accept - otherwise off.
I delete history on exit.

 

Chrome - I only use on occasion - Google donchaknow - it's mostly open and unhindered and it's the browser I use on the phone other than Firefox

 

Edge - is my open unhindered browser for when I need to do more on a site and can't be bothered to open things in Firefox.

 

And yes I use duckduckgo as well. It concerns me a little and probably less than it should that they use Yandex out of Russia though. hmm


I use non-standard non-tracking/logging (allegedly) DNS servers.

bashley
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Re: De-Googled Phone & Public Mobility


@z10user4 wrote:

Certainly not saying that I'm anything resembling "all that" but a while ago I went on a non-tracking kick.

Here's what I do. I would certainly be interested in other ideas.

 

This is all about my main laptop computer. I've been using this tablet I'm typing on for a little while. And my phone is Android sooo....but some of the things are on the tablet and phone too.

 

Thunderbird email client - I don't download embedded images or allow Javascript. I actually got an email from a place that I bought something from asking if I was still interested in receiving emails from them. I replied yes. But it tells me that embedded images in emails are being tracked. I also use the SSL access method for POP or IMAP.

 

Firefox - I use Adblocker of course.
I use "HTTPS Everywhere" to make sure the browser picks up an encrypted version of the site.
I turn off Javascript and use Noscript which can be a bit of a bother when just browsing around or wanting to interact with the site so I turn on their own javascript temporarily or if a frequent visitor I leave it on. I fully block ad type scripts and most of Google.
I use "Smart Referrer" so that when I click a link on a page then the next site doesn't know where I came from.
I don't accept 3rd party cookies and I control which site cookies I accept - otherwise off.
I delete history on exit.

 

Chrome - I only use on occasion - Google donchaknow - it's mostly open and unhindered and it's the browser I use on the phone other than Firefox

 

Edge - is my open unhindered browser for when I need to do more on a site and can't be bothered to open things in Firefox.

 

And yes I use duckduckgo as well. It concerns me a little and probably less than it should that they use Yandex out of Russia though. hmm


I use non-standard non-tracking/logging (allegedly) DNS servers.


A lot of good tips, thanks!  Another alternative search engine which prioritizes privacy, and which I use now and then is Start Page.

https://www.startpage.com/ 

 

 

bashley
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Re: De-Googled Phone & Public Mobility

Good to know these required specs you're pointing out, thanks! 

Korth
Mayor / Maire

Re: De-Googled Phone & Public Mobility

Cyanogen is great on some devices, not ported as well onto others.

 

https://itsfoss.com/open-source-alternatives-android/

 

There are dozens of alternatives to mobile Android/iOS/Windows. But not all of them are available for all mobile devices. If you have a particular device then you have a limited selection of firmware/OS options. If you want a particular open OS then you have a limited selection of devices which will support it. So your choices aren't as overwhelming as they might seem at first glance.

 

Device rooting is still a fairly good option. You can't fully de-google (or de-Apple or de-Microsoft) your gizmo but you can gain control/audit over the most invasive and pervasive features. The problem is embedded code blobs, proprietary instructions running in "black box" logic circuits, you'll never get away from that unless you can fully lobotomize your device at the component level, install an electrical DIP switch across your antennae wires, etc.

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