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(sigh) I'll let this speak for itself...

Obice
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

I don't really know what to say at this point...

 

https://c.mail.com/@783470527145581586/DRnfxbClSYaeDLqJoT5IYw

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Obice
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

I in fact have a home phone because I prefer hardwired technology over wireless.

 

My only desire is that landline prices go down in the coming years that way I can go from internet-based to a real wire. Wired is often times more dependable than wireless, little messy sure, but a lot better than having waves of frequenies all around us and interruptions because of the fact that it's being transmitted through the air rather than a cable.

 

A family member has or had an account with Freedom Mobile and I don't know if he's just unlucky or what but trying to talk with him over the phone is usually a task because he cuts in and out and usually that's not as much of a problem with other providers. Talk to someone through a hardwired phone and I find the problem goes out almost completely.

Karnbot13
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

@iPhoneUser wrote:

When I was a child we did not have a phone. And when we got one it was stationary, black, installed on the wall in the most awkward spot in the house. And we had to share the line....a party line it was called. You did not abuse, timewise, the phone and rarely called long distance as was very very expensive and poor quality. Crank, spam, calls etc where rare. Then became the idea of kids crank calling and would ask Is your fridge running? The response was...yes. Then you better catch it......would be the response and then hang up quickly. No caller ID then! And then you would call for a huge order of Chinese Food to be delivered to your neighbor. You would hide in  a spot to watch the delivery! It would keep you busy for an hour or so for that 5 minute rush. In one form or another we have had spam, scam, extortion for the last 70 years. Caller ID put an end to most and self management of contact lists have helped avoid answering these calls from Microsoft India, CRA every Jan, Feb, Mar, political parties, furnace cleaners, window sales....you name it. Then came private lines, multiple phones in the house and then cell phones which lead to smart phones. You know....smart phones.....the ones you spend $55 a month on for each kid instead of having a baby sitter after school. We all need to understand  it is so easy to spoof a legitmate number and no matter what, YOUR common sense and due diligence remains most effective. And for you millennial socialists that expect the government to control your inbound calls, baby sit your babies at day care and give you a handout for your new electric car......GET A GRIP!


Had me in the first half, not going to lie. Unfortunately the second half turned into the typical self absorbed boomer rant from someone who conveniently overlooks the advantages they were handed compared to today. I manage many millenials and boomers, I find them to be very hard working. It tends to be individuals from those groups that exhibit the stereotypical, lazy, entitled mindset, not the group as a whole. I guess stereotypes make it easier for some people to remember their biases

Anonymous
Not applicable

@iPhoneUser wrote:

And for you millennial socialists that expect the government to control your inbound calls, baby sit your babies at day care and give you a handout for your new electric car......GET A GRIP!


Hey! I quite enjoyed the $16,000 "handout" to buy my electric car thank you very much. I certainly didn't expect it though. And nor am I a millenial.

iPhoneUser
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

When I was a child we did not have a phone. And when we got one it was stationary, black, installed on the wall in the most awkward spot in the house. And we had to share the line....a party line it was called. You did not abuse, timewise, the phone and rarely called long distance as was very very expensive and poor quality. Crank, spam, calls etc where rare. Then became the idea of kids crank calling and would ask Is your fridge running? The response was...yes. Then you better catch it......would be the response and then hang up quickly. No caller ID then! And then you would call for a huge order of Chinese Food to be delivered to your neighbor. You would hide in  a spot to watch the delivery! It would keep you busy for an hour or so for that 5 minute rush. In one form or another we have had spam, scam, extortion for the last 70 years. Caller ID put an end to most and self management of contact lists have helped avoid answering these calls from Microsoft India, CRA every Jan, Feb, Mar, political parties, furnace cleaners, window sales....you name it. Then came private lines, multiple phones in the house and then cell phones which lead to smart phones. You know....smart phones.....the ones you spend $55 a month on for each kid instead of having a baby sitter after school. We all need to understand  it is so easy to spoof a legitmate number and no matter what, YOUR common sense and due diligence remains most effective. And for you millennial socialists that expect the government to control your inbound calls, baby sit your babies at day care and give you a handout for your new electric car......GET A GRIP!

Anonymous
Not applicable

I'm sure we all grasp your principled stand. No one likes it. Lobby your MLA. Lobby your MP. Lobby your Senator. Start a petition. Start a revolution.

It's simply not something that ruins my day. I personally just don't care. I'll block the call. Done. Apparently the regulating body is attempting to force the telco's to do something about it. Fine. Good luck with that. Scammers gonna scam.

I find it astonishing that people choose to filter calls when it does little to no harm to simply answer the dang phone. Just say no. Don't press any buttons. Hang up. How hard is that? And then the day comes when it's your cousin Mildred informing you of the passing of your Aunt. But no. They were on private caller so you ignored the call. Astonishing.

Obice
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

I don't know how more clear I can possibly be...

 

We as customers, as humans, should not have to deal with these calls at all.

 

There are evidently groups of people that want to try to scam other people, that's not fine but reality. What is even less "fine" is how the telecommunications companies do absolutely nothing on their end to solve the situation. Rather they tell us to just block numbers on our phones, putting the problem into our hands when it is them that should be solving it because we pay for their service. Somehow this behavior is okay but mine is outlandish. It's astonishing.

Anonymous
Not applicable

@Obice wrote:


I pretty much never answer spam calls or numbers I simply don't know in uncertainty whether the number might be spam.


But other than taking a moment of your time to answer and then promptly block...what does it hurt? Then the calls dwindle to few and far between.

Don't press any buttons on automated calls and simply hang up.

Obice
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

@darlicious wrote:

@Obice  I've had that call and they actually had me going for awhile....because they had spoofed the department of justice number. So while I was busy double checking the info on my tablet they were feeding me very accurate government of Canada info. Once I clued in i kept them on the line while I tried to contact the police department and the Canadian antifraud centre. Unfortunately  I was on hold with both for over half an hour and the fraudsters got mad that I wasn't rushing to the bank to withdraw all my money and hung up on me.


I pretty much never answer spam calls or numbers I simply don't know in uncertainty whether the number might be spam.

@Obice  I've had that call and they actually had me going for awhile....because they had spoofed the department of justice number. So while I was busy double checking the info on my tablet they were feeding me very accurate government of Canada info. Once I clued in i kept them on the line while I tried to contact the police department and the Canadian antifraud centre. Unfortunately  I was on hold with both for over half an hour and the fraudsters got mad that I wasn't rushing to the bank to withdraw all my money and hung up on me.

Obice
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

@alanbrenan wrote:

@Obice wrote:

I don't really know what to say at this point...

 

https://c.mail.com/@783470527145581586/DRnfxbClSYaeDLqJoT5IYw



While there isn't much to be done until CRTC's enforcement vs anti spoof calls and such goes through a bit more, reporting any scam calls you get and the details to http://www.antifraudcentre-centreantifraude.ca/reportincident-signalerincident/index-eng.htm you may help spread the newest "scam" - you never know when you're the first target of a new campaign.


Funny you mention that I should report this. I have been trying to for days and their system is having "technical difficulties".

 

What are the odds that it is tax season or going to be and the very people we are supposed to go to to report fraud are having difficulties themselves? Coincidence? Maybe.

alanbrenan
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

@Obice wrote:

I don't really know what to say at this point...

 

https://c.mail.com/@783470527145581586/DRnfxbClSYaeDLqJoT5IYw



While there isn't much to be done until CRTC's enforcement vs anti spoof calls and such goes through a bit more, reporting any scam calls you get and the details to http://www.antifraudcentre-centreantifraude.ca/reportincident-signalerincident/index-eng.htm you may help spread the newest "scam" - you never know when you're the first target of a new campaign.

XionBunny
Deputy Mayor / Adjoint au Maire

I don't get them anymore since I blocked them with youmail, set maximum spam filter, and set the blocked automated pickup to a professionaly recoded response letting them know they've been reported to local law enforcement. All call attempts stoped after that.


@iPhoneUser wrote:

I get a call exactly like this one once a week. The number is blocked but it will still wind up in your voicemail. 



To prevent calls that your phone blocks (or "declines") from going to voicemail to further annoy you, set your "Busy/Decline" conditional forward to something other than your voicemail, such as a US number. Since Public Mobile does not allow call forwarding to USA, the caller will simply get a fast-busy.

 

ie Dial: *67#8080000000# to set

Dial ##67# to reset it back to the default going to voicemail.

 

When active, unanswered calls, and calls while your phone is out of the coverage area will continue to go to voicemail as usual.

 

You can also have some fun by setting it to other numbers, see a previous post of mine: https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Discussions/Fun-with-Conditional-Call-forwarding-and-...

Obice
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

@Anonymous wrote:

@Obice wrote:

I merely thought I'd record it, so that I have proof of it.

 

I know posting it here won't do any good.

 

The fact that blocking numbers is the best "solution" is pretty weak. The spammer will just use a different number eventually.

 

Happy Blocking Smiley Wink


I currently have 83 numbers in my blocked numbers list. Call comes in. Who are you? Answer expecting junk. It is. Block it. Or...miss a call. Who are you? Call it back expecting junk. It is. Block it.

It's not hard. I don't get a whole lot of calls now.

First world problems. Sigh.


I looked up the number in question at the time of receiving the voicemail and it is supposed to be a landline owned by Bell. You ask me, Bell has all the authority on their own lines to cease sh** like this but won't because they get paid in the end.

Anonymous
Not applicable

@Obice wrote:

I merely thought I'd record it, so that I have proof of it.

 

I know posting it here won't do any good.

 

The fact that blocking numbers is the best "solution" is pretty weak. The spammer will just use a different number eventually.

 

Happy Blocking Smiley Wink


I currently have 83 numbers in my blocked numbers list. Call comes in. Who are you? Answer expecting junk. It is. Block it. Or...miss a call. Who are you? Call it back expecting junk. It is. Block it.

It's not hard. I don't get a whole lot of calls now.

First world problems. Sigh.

Obice
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

I merely thought I'd record it, so that I have proof of it.

 

I know posting it here won't do any good.

 

The fact that blocking numbers is the best "solution" is pretty weak. The spammer will just use a different number eventually.

 

Happy Blocking Smiley Wink

will13am
Oracle
Oracle

Use the spam filter on the phone app.  If there isn't such feature, consider changing phone apps. 

iPhoneUser
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

@gblackma wrote:

@Obice sounds like spam to me, Block, Block and Block number. Lol one of my favourites is the Windows call centre one.


I get a call exactly like this one once a week. The number is blocked but it will still wind up in your voicemail. 

 

Once again manage your contacts....if name does not appear in caller ID......be suspicious!!!! And block, block and block some more!


 

kselmak
Mayor / Maire

We are getting these all the time, mostly around 1pm and 6 pm on all the phones Fido freedom public. 

Recently they are from 705, before they used to be from your area code, mine even matched my 3 first numbers so I knew to ignore. 

I doubt anything can be done, annoying as hell. I was thinking of actually answering once and telling them that I only deal with cash and getting the address to send the cash, we had a dead raccoon in the backyard that I really wanted to gift them. But then I really didn't want to call them

gblackma
Mayor / Maire

@Obice sounds like spam to me, Block, Block and Block number. Lol one of my favourites is the Windows call centre one.

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