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Swapping Numbers Between 2 Accounts I control (same person and VISA)

-unknown-
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

Hi,

 

I have 2 accounts I control (1 personal, 1 work) and I need to swap the numbers between my plans.  I read initially that this wasn't possible but see that another user was able to get this done.  Can you advise on next steps.  Thanks.

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@Anonymous, yep totally agree very frustrating.  Never any consistency.

 


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Anonymous
Not applicable

 @ShawnC13 : If it's not official then they're just wishy washy ad hoc flying by the seat of the pants ideas being floated around unofficially.

Um, oh yeah, we can re-instate deactivated SIM's here, no problem. Wait, no, that is  something we have chosen not to allow. We can. But we won't.

That sort of thing.


@Anonymous wrote:

 @ShawnC13 : If it has to be policy then I'd rather see it written than second hand from fellow customers such as Oracles.

 

 @darlicious : Lest they and we forget, Oracles are also customers.


@Anonymous so would you rather me just relay information that we get from PM as long as it isn't a policy lol

 

 


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Anonymous
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 @ShawnC13 : If it has to be policy then I'd rather see it written than second hand from fellow customers such as Oracles.

 

 @darlicious : Lest they and we forget, Oracles are also customers.

@Anonymous 

It's up to us regular members to advocate for the customer.


@Anonymous wrote:

@ShawnC13: Well I hope Oracles are advocating FOR it seeing all the requests to do it.


@Anonymous, I just want to know what the policy is so when I provide information (that is given to me from PM management) it is correct information.

 

 


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Anonymous
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@ShawnC13: Well I hope Oracles are advocating FOR it seeing all the requests to do it.

@ShawnC13 

Perhaps you would like to address the self solution in this thread as well.


@darlicious wrote:

 

@computergeek541  @srlawren @ShawnC13 

It never hurts to advocate on the side of the customer it seems.


@darlicious, it will be addressed as it is being discussed right now

 

 


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I think Oracles are doing their job to tell us the official policy of PM.    It is more Jade' PM team need to stick with the policy and not to make "exception" all the time.  If the policy was updated, PM need to do a better job to get the message across

@-unknown- 

It sounds like you did luck out and once you explained your dilemma to the CSA they were willing to work with you to achieve your goal. As I said it never hurts to ask.....the worst that can happen is the CSA says "Sorry no. That's not possible."

 

@computergeek541  @srlawren @ShawnC13 

It never hurts to advocate on the side of the customer it seems.

Anonymous
Not applicable

 @-unknown- : So yes it would seem that the company needs to step down off this declared policy via the Oracles. We hear about several instances of this being done. It ain't no policy if it can be broken.

@-unknown- thanks for the updates..Nice that this got done and we have a happy customer now.

 

But I thought this is not PM official policy.  I hope this won't get any CS agent in trouble 

-unknown-
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

Just as a quick update, I messaged the CSA generic inbox and it wasn't a problem swapping the numbers/accounts.  The concern seemed to be to ensure I was the same person across both accounts so they asked several verification questions.  I had the same VISA paying on both, the only quirk I had was that they used my middle name on one account and my first name on the other, but since you can update that yourself under your online profile, it wasn't an issue.  I also provided a copy of my driver's license showing both my names on there as well as the security codes they texted each line.

 

For anyone curious (since there were several users pitching "alternative" solutions that seemed to misunderstand my necessity of swapping accounts), my two accounts were 1 personal and 1 business.  My long-standing number was on my personal account (phone number) that contained many rewards but I needed to swap that for my business account (phone number).  If your number is ever ported, it terminates your account, and with that would go all your rewards, which is why it was important to ensure my long-standing account would remain with the number that stays at PM.

 

Maybe I got lucky as many others seemed to report not being able to do so.  In the end, I'm not sure I would understand what the conflict is all about since if both accounts are controlled by the same person, there's no real conflict of interest.  Plus it helps ensure you stay with PM.  Perhaps what presents a challenge is swapping plans?  I wasn't worried about losing an out-of-market plan.  My priority was maintaining my rewards and my number, that was all, so maybe it's a different situation if someone is trying to hang on to a plan.

 

@-unknown- 

Unfortunately, in your case this just can't be done or you would lose a phone number. Perhaps we can advise you on changing to the appropriate plan for each account if you fill us in on why it was so important to swap phone numbers between accounts?

@Yummy 

There's no fighting going on were just having a healthy discussion on what can and cannot be done by the CSA's. Both @ShawnC13 and I know how to agree to disagree. That's part of what makes the community diverse....having the ability to have differing opinions.

Is it a full moon or Jupiter is close by??? Everybody wants to fight on Dec. 1st. I guess it is caused by all those extremely annoying 'holiday' songs playing everywhere... No wonder...

 

Relax guys.

@ShawnC13 

That is the question then isn't it?

 

So you have to follow the policy given to you by pm management. Us regular members are under no obligation to do so....but we are behoven to give the best advice possible on the customers behalf.


@darlicious wrote:

@ShawnC13 

Pm has lots of policies that they regularily make exceptions to....I don't often tell customers to contact customer support unless it's absolutely necessary or I think it may...and I say may...be possible that an exception will be made.

 

How many members constantly suggest a customer contact customer support for a refund when they know there is a strict no refund policy? Its suggested all the time. The case a few weeks ago was the difference between losing a customer/account to Rogers or keeping them. Pm made the exception to keep the customer. I'm not saying this is the case here but it's a similar circumstance. Shouldn't we give pm the opportunity to make that decision themselves rather than saying no it's 100% not possible? Its 99.99% not possible but there is a glimmer of hope.


Is it PM making the decision or just the CSA.  What I said and what @computergeek541  provided was what we have been told directly from PM Community managers.

 


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@ShawnC13 

Pm has lots of policies that they regularily make exceptions to....I don't often tell customers to contact customer support unless it's absolutely necessary or I think it may...and I say may...be possible that an exception will be made.

 

How many members constantly suggest a customer contact customer support for a refund when they know there is a strict no refund policy? Its suggested all the time. The case a few weeks ago was the difference between losing a customer/account to Rogers or keeping them. Pm made the exception to keep the customer. I'm not saying this is the case here but it's a similar circumstance. Shouldn't we give pm the opportunity to make that decision themselves rather than saying no it's 100% not possible? Its 99.99% not possible but there is a glimmer of hope.


@darlicious wrote:

@computergeek541 

Except what the CSA's have been instructed to do and what they have done recently are two different matters.

 

Why is it you are happy to give your opinion that pm is not being competitive with its plans but when the CSA's have made exceptions for customers you won't even put your foot in the door for a loyal customer?


@darlicious, the information that has been provided is the information we as Oracles get directly from PM when we ask the questions.  So is this CSA going against the PM Policy, and if so why?  I personally won't direct people to ask an employee to go against  the policy.

 


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@srlawren 

Aside from all this I did offer other advice to possibly help their situation as I don't see why there is an issue just changing plans on the accounts as is.....the exception being that they need full speed 4G LTE data on the work phone but why they would want to benefit the work account that they presumably wouldn't be paying for with their rewards I don't understand.

srlawren
Retired Oracle / Oracle Retraité

@darlicious wrote:

@srlawren 

Au contraire. It was done in the last couple of weeks....I would have to look for the thread. I'm only commenting because a CSA set precedence but I do see your point. But hey....I'm only advocating for the customer. 


@darlicious advocate all you like, but I don't think you should be treating an exception as a precedence.  The policy is the policy and we shouldn't be encouraging people trying to get around it.

 

 


@darlicious wrote:

Pm is sticking with throttled 4G LTE data speeds but it doesn't stop us from asking for full speed.😁


Well yes you can wish for things but this is an apples to oranges comparison. 


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@srlawren 

Au contraire. It was done in the last couple of weeks....I would have to look for the thread. I'm only commenting because a CSA set precedence but I do see your point. But hey....I'm only advocating for the customer. 

 

Pm is sticking with throttled 4G LTE data speeds but it doesn't stop us from asking for full speed.😁

srlawren
Retired Oracle / Oracle Retraité

@darlicious wrote:

@computergeek541 

but when the CSA's have made exceptions for customers you won't even put your foot in the door for a loyal customer?


@darliciousunless this is somehow a life and death matter, why put the CSAs in the awkward position of asking them to do something they are not permitted to do?  The correct answer to this question is that it will not be done and we should not be steering customers to ask the CSAs.  It used to be allowed but is not any more, plain and simple.


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pkaraa
Deputy Mayor / Adjoint au Maire

Not possible, I haven't seen recently any user saying that it was done while I have seen people asking for this swap.

The rewards are paying you back so you can buy add-on data. If you keep both phones with you then try tethering for more data on work phone. 

BlueB
Deputy Mayor / Adjoint au Maire

@-unknown- 

First, love your usesrname here.... unknown!

 

From what I know, along with what some of our oracles (ie. experts) have mentioned, there may be technical ways to accomplish this, but is very complicated, relies on staff going against standard procedures/rules, and also carries the risk of potentially losing both numbers altogether. 

 

I think I understand what you're trying to do, but to summarize everything here - I just don't think it's worth trying.  You'll see the recent post by @Luddite as well that you'll lose one of the numbers in the process *if* it was done how you asked.

@softech  This was never possible. A few customer years ago were able to move a number to another PM account BUT the account losing its number was given a new random number. So, only one of the two phone numbers could be saved. 


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@computergeek541 

Except what the CSA's have been instructed to do and what they have done recently are two different matters.

 

Why is it you are happy to give your opinion that pm is not being competitive with its plans but when the CSA's have made exceptions for customers you won't even put your foot in the door for a loyal customer?

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