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Public Mobile overcharged my account of a bug - how can I refund the money back to my credit card?

daattali
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

There seems to be a bug on PublicMobile that caused me to be overcharged but ~$100.

 

For several years I was signed up to a 90 day plan and had pre-authorized payments enabled linked to my credit card.

 

The latest 90-day cycle ended on Nov 13 (started on Aug 14). On Nov 10 I logged in to the self service website and changed my plan to a 30 day plan. I know for a fact it was changed - I even logged out and logged back in and went to my Plan page to make sure it updated to the new shorter plan.

 

I looked at my credit card statement today and I see that PM charged me the same amount that it used to charge me for 90 days. (1) On the "Plan & Add-Ons" page it still says that I'm on a 90 day plan (even though it confirmed I changed it to 30 days when I was logged in last week). (2)  On the "Plan & Add-Ons" page, it says "Current Plan Cycle: Sep 14, 2022 - Dec 13, 2022" - which is WRONG - my plan was Aug 14 to Nov 13. The new plan should have been Nov 14 - Dec 13. (3) On the "Payment History" page, it does mention "30-day plan" (it does not mention a 90 day plan), but it also says "Automatic Top-Up" and it's for the same amount that I used to pay - this is $100 more than I'm supposed to pay.

 

Clearly PM has some issues here, the above 3 points are not consistent with each other. I now have a lot of money sitting in the "Available Funds" on my account but I don't want it, I want to refund that money. I never agreed for this payment to be made. How do I get this done in the quickest way possible? 

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Eagle17
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

Cancel your PM account and use a reputable company.  You may have to wait 30 or more days to get your refund,but,in the end,it'll be worth it 👌

darlicious
Mayor / Maire

@Meow 

The first month can have this glitch occur. Once the plan change occurs there is only one plan price for autopay to charge for which is why topping up your account balance for the new plan amount for an upgrade solves that glitch.....I suppose now that I think of it doing the same for a downgrade may also solve the problem? As long as autopay doesn't engage at all then the plan amount it will be entirely debited from the available funds will avoid the downgrade glitch overpayment.....in theory.


@darlicious wrote:

@daattali 

Since the roll out of our new "self serve" accounts there is a new reverse glitch to the autopay failure glitch when upgrading your plan. The long standing glitch that could occur when upgrading your plan for example from the $15 plan to the $25 would be caused by the autopay system still seeing your lower plan amount to be paid and would only charge the payment card $15 instead of $25. This would leave your account $10


So, is this glitch occurs only very first month after plan switch or continues month after month?

darlicious
Mayor / Maire

@daattali 

Since the roll out of our new "self serve" accounts there is a new reverse glitch to the autopay failure glitch when upgrading your plan. The long standing glitch that could occur when upgrading your plan for example from the $15 plan to the $25 would be caused by the autopay system still seeing your lower plan amount to be paid and would only charge the payment card $15 instead of $25. This would leave your account $10 short of your new plan amount causing the renewal onto the new plan to fail and the account would be suspended leaving the old plan amount of $15 that was charged to your card sitting in your available funds and the customer would have to manually top up their account $10 to reactivate the account on the new plan.

 

The workaround for the long standing glitch is to simply manually top up your account before renewal with the new plan amount to avoid the possibility of this glitch happening to you. There is no such workaround for the new reverse glitch.

 

Now the new glitch which adversely affects 90 day plan holders much more onerously than most 30 day plan holders switching to another 30 day plan because well you are paying for 90 days instead of 30 days. Now autopay sees your old plan amount and charges your payment the old amount but changes you to the new plan without suspension because now you have way too much money in your available funds and if you are on a tight budget or planning on suspending or leaving perhaps the last thing you want is $100+ in your available funds.

 

Hopefully customer support can issue a refund to your card quicker than the usual up to 30 days and usually can when the error is on public mobile's side rather the customer's end. 

 

When it comes to your rewards I have never understood the supposed logic behind the lowered reward amount being correct. I can understand it being a glitch but I wouldn't accept it unless someone can enlighten me? As far as I understand it (and similar to the lost/stolen glitch with rewards not applying upon renewal that need to be applied manually) rewards are earned on the previously paid cycle. Either 30 days or in your case 90 days. The new cycle should have no bearing on the rewards earned in the previous paid cycle. You earn $8 every 30 days or for a 90 day cycle 3×$8=$24. Shortly after midnight upon renewal $24 in rewards should be applied to your available funds. When you renew at midnight you still technically renew on your old plan. Any data, minute and/or text counters reset and in your case your 90 day plan. It is not until payment for your plan amount is taken from your available funds that your actual plan change occurs. So I equate the $8 in rewards as another glitch within the rewards system where it can see the scheduled plan change and adjusts your rewards only does it 30 days earlier than it should. The only rewards that could be arguably earned ahead of payment is autopay because it requires registration to have occurred before payment is taken (at activation) or before midnight eastern upon renewal.....before your new cycle begins.

 

Both the old self serve and new self serve have issues with dates that usually clear up after a few hours or a few days or a sure fire way of fixing the dates is using lost/stolen but that will just cause another (aforementioned) glitch. Self serve has for whatever reason just tacked on your new 30 day plan cycle onto your previous (now expired) 90 day plan giving you what looks like a 120 day plan. Your new plan has been properly accounted for in your transaction history presumably you see something along the lines of.....

 

  • $5     Loyalty reward
  • $2     Autopay reward
  • $1     Refer-a-friend reward
  • $8     Credit
  • $132 Automatic Top up
  • $140 Credit
  • $10 - 30 Day Plan (debit)
  • $130 
  • $30 - 15GB at 4G SPEED (debit)
  • $100 Available funds balance

You were expecting to pay $40 - $8(rewards)=$32+tax charged to your card. I'm guessing your old plan amount was $156? Or something along those lines with a build your own plan? Needless to say the CSA can look into your payment history to correct the billing and issue a refund but I contend that you earned $24 in rewards in your previous 90 days and your card should have been charged your plan amount ($40?) - $24 (your rewards)=$16? Your next renewal should be your plan amount ($40?) - $8 (your rewards)=$32?

@daattali 

call 611 and see what the plan is. 

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@daattali   PM agent will reply via Community inbox.  So, you can discuss further with them via messaging.

 

It is late now, they likely will reply in the morning.  Check your Community inbox 

daattali
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

I submitted a ticket, although it didn't let me say anything - it only allowed me to say what I got charged and what I should have been charged. No explanations allowed.

 

I also noticed that I usually get 24$ rewards in every 90-day cycle, which equates to $8 rewards per month. This time I only got 8$ rewards, which makes sense, but I got chargd for 3 months. So PM is definitely confused.

softech
Oracle
Oracle

@daattali   so, you just made a plan change?  Try to login with Incognito mode and see if the cycle date show up correctly now

 

But you said your credit card shows PM charge you wrong?

 

How about Payment History?  check it and see what it shows

 

If you are certain PM charged you wrong on your credit card, open ticket with them and have them to investigate:

1. If you have access to My account: At https://publicmobile.ca/chatbot.

Start by typing "Submit a ticket", then click "Contact Us", Then click "Other", then click "Click here to submit a ticket ↗" 

2. If you don't have access to My Account or have trouble with Chatbot: Private message CS Agent at: 

      https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/notes/composepage/note-to-user-id/22437


**Monitor your Community inbox (envelope icon on the top right) after the ticket is opened.  CS Agent will reply to you there

 

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