03-05-2018 11:03 AM - edited 01-04-2022 03:39 PM
Is there plans or SIM cards available for iWatch on Public Mobile?
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05-24-2018 08:13 AM
@Acekiller wrote:that's y i hate apple products!
Yes, it is "anti-consumer" insofar as being less flexible than alternatives, it locks end-users into a proprietary and dependent path, one which happens to cost more.
But (when properly designed, implemented, and supported) this approach also has advantages. Apple's stuff offers many little advantages over non-Apple stuff, it's not necessarily the best of the best in every category but it's got a lot of clever things which are all "standardized" to (and controlled by and streamlined for) Apple devices. An app like FaceTime doesn't need to support an astounding array of different processors or screen resolutions, it doesn't need to be bloated with (often buggy) legacy code for compatibility with every other machine on the market since Android OS or the IBM PC launched. If you use the things Apple provides for you the way Apple intends you use them (and you interface with other things that are part Apple's technological eco-system) then Apple actually offers a really good path - "it just works" without any hassle and it's simple and minimalist and it's even stylish. (I buy tech, not fashion, so I rarely buy Apple stuff - but stylish bling and that all-important brand logo matters to enough people that it's emphasized as a major selling point which makes Apple a world leader. Results speak for themselves, there is no substitute for success.)
Apple is not alone in proprietary lock-ins and EEE. Microsoft was once villainized for it. People are starting to realize that Google, Samsung, Intel, NVidia, Ford, Chevy, and countless other companies employ the practice. Whole industries (things like disposable shaver blades or printer ink cartridges) are sustained by this practice, whole sections of law (like the DMCA) are dedicated to defining and protecting this practice.
These eSIMs are still a new(ish) thing, maybe the iWatch is the first (or among the first) consumer devices of the sort. But I expect it won't be too long before they're built into all sorts of low-end and high-end devices, the advantages to the manufacturer/vendor are too tempting to ignore. And again, they do provide a few advantages to the consumer as well - devices can be made smaller, lighter, use less power, and have all they hardware/configuration they need "just work" right out of the box.
05-23-2018 01:48 PM
that's y i hate apple products!
05-22-2018 04:21 AM
Apple Watch 3 (iWatch) uses an "eSIM".
It's basically an "embedded" SIM card, permanently soldered/integrated into the circuitry. It's not user-swappable (which is less flexible for end-users because it basically "locks" the consumer into authorized OEM market channels). But it also doesn't require a physical SIM card slot or any of the of the associated interface circuitry (which allows the OEM to make the device smaller and cheaper). Apple has always (since Wozniak left) been a leader in embracing proprietary controls.
This iWatch3 is a premium, exclusive device. I doubt it will trickle down to second- and third-tier carriers until it's basically been replaced by newer "iWatch4" or "iWatch5" versions. And I doubt it will be ever be available/compatible on PM unless perhaps it's purchased through Telus/Koodo (so the eSIM is locked to Telus/Koodo) and Telus/Koodo then allows migration to PM (which is technically a separate operator). Apple likes to impose its "vision" (and its restrictions) onto vendors, if they decree that iWatch3 eSIMs are all locked into exclusive contracts which cannot be moved then so be it.
I expect that if this product is deemed successful then all sorts of cheaper and equivalent (or even better) ghost/clone/ripoff products will be marketed through Alibaba.
03-05-2018 01:28 PM
Public Mobile is a tier 3 service in the Telus line up. Leading edge stuff like this trickle down really slow. Don't expect this here any time soon.
03-05-2018 01:21 PM
what kind of sim does iwatch use?
03-05-2018 11:17 AM
I don't think so. You would need to go to one ogmf the top tier brands