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Upcoming Changes to our Old Rewards Program

J_PM
Public Mobile
Public Mobile

Hey Community,

We have an important announcement to share with our subscribers who are currently enrolled in our old Rewards program.

We’re making changes to our rewards program and are sharing how these changes impact some of our subscribers. Starting in May, we’ll be retiring our old Rewards program and moving all subscribers to our Public Points™ program. 

We launched the Public Points™ program in January 2022 to provide our subscribers with more ways to earn and spend rewards, with greater flexibility. As part of our commitment to continuously evolve our products and services, it's time to retire our old Rewards program and shift our focus on enhancing our Points program.

To show our appreciation for your continued loyalty, subscribers on our old Rewards program will receive a special thank you. We'll send you a text message when it has been added to your account by March 31st. 

We’re excited to continue providing you, our valued subscribers, more opportunities to earn and spend rewards with Public Points™ moving forward.

To learn more about your move to Public Points, check out our FAQ here.

The Public Mobile Team

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Wolfcore
Deputy Mayor / Adjoint au Maire

I'd go even further than this. Loyalty is one of the most important aspects of business, in fact, it's what keeps most businesses from surviving in the first place. Many companies will even lose money on a client, because it's often more valuable to keep them on as a client, than the money being lost.

PM (Telus), is not losing money on a single subscriber, I can assure you of this. Even the people paying $0, they are paying for themselves tenfold, via their referrals. These companies always do the math, they always leave room for the worst case scenarios, to guarantee they're never in the red.

This decision is simply about greed. It's about them seeing an untapped avenue of revenue, and wanting to take advantage of it. Even though these people who are paying $0 are paying for themselves through referrals, PM believes that they can get these people to pay some money, and they "know" that by removing this legacy rewards program, that'll it'll bring in a ton of extra profit. This is so long as they manage to quell the outrage and damage to their reputation, of course. If that fails, then it may end up costing them far more in the end.

Regardless, my point is, loyalty is hard to come by. Once you have a customer, you wanna keep them. In my opinion, they should have kept the legacy points system around (keeping all of their clients happy, and reputation intact), and then worked on ways to upsell them products, and increase revenue to make up for the profits they wanted to see. This is what most companies do in this situation, because the value of having that customer remain with them, is far more valuable than anything else.

If you're not making enough money on a client, you should get creative:

- push unique add-ons.

- come up with unique incentive programs to convince them to bring in more referrals.

- bring back phones and sell those at a slight markup, maybe accessories too.

- create an entire advertising program that would be deployed through text messages (i.e., a customer signs up to receive these text advertisements from other companies, and they receive $2 off their bill. PM will make profit from this.

- although I'm not a big fan, push more personalized plan offers. For example, if somebody is paying $0 on the $15/250mb plan, offer them $17 750mb, and slowly keep pushing them upwards over time. Make the offers so good that it would be silly to turn them down.

- allow users to give up some of their data to other users, at a cost (i.e., I send 1gb of my data to my friend, but I gotta pay $2 (math would have to make sense so there's no overlapping with add-on data packages)

- not a fan, but give exclusive plan offers to people on the old system, that are attractive, but the caveat is that they would be forced to switch to the new points system upon accepting. This way, you're putting the decision in their own hands. There are ways to even convince a customer to "lose value" on the upfront (the $7 per month), with a nicely tweaked plan.

Increase profits outside of legacy customers:

- introduce a "speed up" addon/feature. When people run out of data, and they're now on their throttled unlimited data, give them the option to pay some money to either increase that speed or return become non-throttled for a temporary duration (i.e., pay $2, get full speed for 12 hours).

- take more advantage of your forum, allow people to purchase enhancements to their profiles. Simple fancy badges, whatever. Broaden the forum and create frequent contests and lotteries, so people will participate more, thus increasing your audience for these potential purchases.

- introduce a customer service line, but one that has to be paid for. If you want the free service, go ahead, use the CS Agents, but if you want priority service, pay $2 and talk to a human (again, make sure the math is correct and profit is being made).

- find a way to siphon more Public Points from people, by offering up creative rewards. A lottery system is an example "pay 2 points, and you have a chance to win 150 in our weekly lottery!". You'd be surprised how many people would ditch their points for things like this. And of course, you'd make a lot of profit. Could even set up an automatic system where people can opt in to automatically donate 2 points to this lottery each week/month.

- allow people to use points for fancy forum-related content (mentioned above), as well.

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Anyway, I could be here all day, but you get the point. Some of these are dumb, but it's just about being creative. The point is, there are ways to increase profits, without harming your reputation, or without angering and losing customers. If they're gone, you no longer have a chance to extract any money from them whatsoever, and if they leave due to anger, you may also never have a chance of getting them to come back. So I believe the best option is always to just keep them on as a client, and extract profit in other ways. Something is better than nothing.


@G_Pomzz wrote:

What @Alveeto is implying is that because you have been very vocal and critical of the corporation, he thought maybe they would lock you out of the discussion and shut down your account. 


Who's account has been locked and shut down because of this discussion thread?

 


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G_Pomzz
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

What @Alveeto is implying is that because you have been very vocal and critical of the corporation, he thought maybe they would lock you out of the discussion and shut down your account. 

selmak
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

@J_PM 
I am also very unhappy about this move:( I am handling six accounts for my family and nobody's happy so far
Is there any why you may reconsider?


@Alveeto wrote:

Why didn't your account get locked and reset?


@Alveeto, Sorry not understanding your question.  Why would my account get locked and reset?

 


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G_Pomzz
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

Public Mobile has gone corporate. They are not the champion of the common people as originally conceived. As many folks have commented, actions speak louder than words. Maybe a mass exodus to one of the other low cost providers will be a wake up call to the corporate big-wigs that unilaterally stripping us of our rewards program may not have been such a brilliant idea. 

@Soon-ex-PM-user, what tier 1 provider has cheaper plans?  I just did a quick look on a BYOD plans and all 3 start at $50 and don't have the data or calling features that PM has.

 


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@SeniorCitizen wrote:

No disrespect to the Oracles. But are you truly on the side of the consumer expressing your real feelings or are you teamed up to help PM pursue and complete the change.  In a “shill” like position? 


@SeniorCitizen where have I showed support for this change?  I don't agree with it.  Just because I have posted the ToS doesn't mean I am supporting Telus' decision on this.

 


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Alveeto
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Why didn't your account get locked and reset?


@RetiredGuy1 wrote:

Good morning mikasik2,

I too had a dream. It was 2026 and I logged onto the PM Community Forum to find this announcement from an Oracle:

Personally, the moment Telus directed PM to force legacy rewards customers onto the new points program (2024), people should understand the elimination of PM was Telus’ plan, it will come one day, just a matter or timing. Despite inflation eroding their record profits since 2024, Telus has kept the PM entity for 2 extra years. 😂


@RetiredGuy1, hey if it makes sense financially to stay here then do and ride out the rewards as long as they are around.  They can be pulled at anytime (with notice)

 


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RetiredGuy1
Town Hero / Héro de la Ville

Oh, no offence taken and I always look to optimize value in all my expenditures. For added context, I’ve had bad experiences with both Bell and Rogers (phone, cable and internet, not mobile) and now, with this rug-pull of the rewards, I’m simply adding Telus to that list. I’m waiting until May to decide. My sweet spot would be a $24 4G plan with a few GB of data. Given I’ve now faced disappointment in some regard with each of the Big 3, whoever is offering the plan I’m seeking in May will get my $

hi @Public_Cust_17 say whatever you want but I won't e giving you these technical reports for free. Private message me and I can help to set up a proper one for you with a good rate 

inv
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

cut the benefits of front line employees and customers to afford the executives. 

Soon-ex-PM-user
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

The below post from Redflagdeals forum summarize everything.  I would change 'water' to 'spoiled milk':

Public Mobile, a tier 3 provider, is lacking many features and almost nil PM support as the support are done by the loyal customers. With the recent changes, PM prices when taking into account of its many lacking features and almost nil support is more expensive than tier 1 and tier 2 providers.

It is laughable that PM expects us to be loyal when the loyalty rewards are reduced drastically and also cumbersome to use under the new points reward rules. Adding insult to injury, PM blatantly lies telling us that the points reward is better for us and PM also gives us a gift with 150 days expiration. This so called gift is like giving us 'water' where we don't need lol.

giaboni
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

What about this lie in their public community announcement and I quote:

""We’re excited to continue providing you, our valued subscribers, more opportunities to earn and spend rewards with Public Points™ moving forward." 

We as loyal Public Mobile customers DO NOT have more opportunities to earn as we (for those on Auto-Plan and a customer for at least 5 years) are all losing more than 70% in rewards per month in terms of dollar value when we are forced to switch to this new rewards plan in May 2024. In my case, I am currently earning $10 in old rewards per month ($2 Autoplan, $3 Referral and $5 Loyalty) and the new rewards plan does not even come close whatsoever and I am lucky if I get $2.00 in total new rewards per month (my current $34 per month payable every 90 days gives me $2.00 in total new rewards per month) so tell me how and I quote Public Mobile is giving me "more opportunities to earn"?

So in my specific case, I am losing 80% of my rewards dollar value per month  (I am going from $10 rewards per month to $2.00 rewards per month) once I am switched over to the new Public Mobile rewards program but yet according to Public Mobile I am getting "more opportunities to earn".

This is why I filed a complaint with the CCTS because they lied to us.

RetiredGuy1
Town Hero / Héro de la Ville

One of the reasons I chose PM in the first place was the rationale that “hey, at least I’m not supporting Bell or Rogers”. Now I see I was mistaken as Telus’ ethics are no better than their competitors

SeniorCitizen
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

No disrespect to the Oracles. But are you truly on the side of the consumer expressing your real feelings or are you teamed up to help PM pursue and complete the change.  In a “shill” like position? 

SeniorCitizen
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

@MrG3D wrote:

PM's reputation is big time in on the line here, and likely by extension Telus.  This isn't the first unpopular change made to squeeze money out in surreptitious way.  Remember the credit card fee?  You are losing trust fast.  If your business is suffering, raise prices moderately.  Don't lie to your customers.  Look out for your customers and be honest with them and they will be loyal.  I don't know how you expect them to be loyal like this.


Lie, would Telus lie? That’s what creates the 100% mistrust of Telus. I have been lied to soooooo many times from both Telus onshore and offshore since January 2023. Almost on every call.  I can provide examples too. 

mikasik2
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

@RetiredGuy1 wrote:

Good morning mikasik2,

I too had a dream. It was 2026 and I logged onto the PM Community Forum to find this announcement from an Oracle:

Personally, the moment Telus directed PM to force legacy rewards customers onto the new points program (2024), people should understand the elimination of PM was Telus’ plan, it will come one day, just a matter or timing. Despite inflation eroding their record profits since 2024, Telus has kept the PM entity for 2 extra years. 😂


I've no doubt this is the case.  They tried to get everyone on the 4gb/90 day plan to migrate to Koodo a while back.  And now they have Eversafe to make things extra annoying.  This looks like a slow controlled demolition of a company.

SeniorCitizen
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

In late February, Wendy’s management team surprised both customers and investors with a clarification. The fast-food chain announced wrote to CNN that “Wendy’s will not implement surge pricing, which is the practice of raising prices when demand is highest. […] It was never our plan to raise prices when customers are visiting us the most.” Surge pricing is the practice of increasing prices when demand is high and decreasing them when prices are low. Basically, it’s a form of “dynamic” pricing.

Customers of course were elated to hear Wendy’s was no longer employing that kind of pricing strategy, but investors may be less pleased. Still, despite the controversy around dynamic pricing, many companies continue to use this strategy. 

The consumer won!

RetiredGuy1
Town Hero / Héro de la Ville

Good morning mikasik2,

I too had a dream. It was 2026 and I logged onto the PM Community Forum to find this announcement from an Oracle:

Personally, the moment Telus directed PM to force legacy rewards customers onto the new points program (2024), people should understand the elimination of PM was Telus’ plan, it will come one day, just a matter or timing. Despite inflation eroding their record profits since 2024, Telus has kept the PM entity for 2 extra years. 😂

Cnlola8322
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

Don’ lt worry all.  When you wake up morning after March 31st everything will be the same.  This is just an April fool joke.  

byildir
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

I guess the $17 million per year the CEO was making – who knows why, maybe he has some unheard-of tricks up his sleeve- wasn’t good enough. What an unabashed greed!

JDBlue1966
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

Also remember, the stopped the Christmas 1000 overseas calling and free GB’s bonus.

Renzha
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Good job

MrG3D
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

PM's reputation is big time in on the line here, and likely by extension Telus.  This isn't the first unpopular change made to squeeze money out in surreptitious way.  Remember the credit card fee?  You are losing trust fast.  If your business is suffering, raise prices moderately.  Don't lie to your customers.  Look out for your customers and be honest with them and they will be loyal.  I don't know how you expect them to be loyal like this.

Public_Cust_17
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

@ShawnC13  thanks for acknowledging that $7 (max.) change isn't the same for everyone.. it's definitely relative to disposable income.  I have used Oracles as an example but really my comments apply to anyone that can more easily afford the change in monthly costs vs. someone like a senior on a fixed budget when the cost of everything just keeps getting jacked up lately.  Personally, I just do like you've said and follow my wallet because the government hasn't figured out a way to tax me on money I save.. yet.   😁

JDBlue1966
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

Fully agree. If they make the change, I will just look for another provider for me and the wife. Dont even mind paying a bit more. Especially if the provider has overseas roaming. Something I would use a lot. 

eJonavin
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Good bye and thanks for all the fish. It was fun while it lasted. Last of my 4 lines.

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Robbwell
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Before you complain to CCTS you need an argument (and you need to deal with PM first). This forum provides those arguments. Just complaining is not enough for CCTS to decide anything.

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