11-15-2016 08:33 PM
Public Mobile Community,
It is almost 3 years ago to the day when I first walked into the Public Mobile office tasked with finding a way to turn the Public Mobile business around. At the time, it had a limited network with a very expensive support structure (stores and a full-service call centre) that made it an unprofitable business.
So I rolled up my sleeves and along with the team, we began our journey to redefine how wireless service was delivered to Canadians. Being blessed with Canada’s largest 4G LTE network, we wanted to find a way to give customers access to a great network while simultaneously benefitting from great pricing. To do this, we needed to turn those expensive support costs upside down.
This is where doing wireless differently was born. A wireless provider without a call centre - instead, an online community to support its customers. No phones and phone discounts because, well, phones are really expensive. No stores because as you might have guessed by now - they’re crazy expensive too.
I sat in countless focus groups and was told over and over again that we were crazy. They would say things like “you can’t have a service without a call centre”, “you can’t be a wireless provider without selling phones”, “you have to have a store for me to go to”, and my personal favourite “I would never trust an online-only wireless provider.”
I could go on and on as this has been a very long journey to get us to where we are now, but instead I’d like to ask you for your continued trust and support as we work through some of the issues we are experiencing today.
We know some of you have been waiting a long time to hear back from us on various issues including activation/porting failures, future dated rate plan changes, and SIM delivery delays. The truth is we have been overwhelmed by the sheer volume of activity the current promo has generated and we are doing everything we can to fix things. I can ensure you that we have moved all our available resources to assisting you.
Here are some of the things we are seeing and some solutions and commitments from us:
For activation and porting failures:
Future dated rate plan change:
For SIM card delivery delays or if your SIM card never arrived:
How can you help us?
Again, I’m really grateful for your support and your patience. I know that, with the above solutions, we will get through this together and prove that wireless can be done differently.
Sincecerly Dave.
11-23-2016 12:46 PM
@jsharpe, the PM mods are known to reset your 90-day cycle so it starts from the day they resolve your port request troubles. Customers didn't have to pay for the days they were without usable service with their new PM sim card.
As for the waiting ... all I can say is, hang in there.
11-23-2016 10:23 AM
@smilingeyes70 sounds like a good speculation to me! Welcome to PM, finally!
11-22-2016 03:09 PM
In my case it's because I used the same email address to sign up for my PM account as for my Koodo account, which apparently requires a manual workaround.
Now at 7 days waiting for a response. $10 paid for service I can't use so far.
11-21-2016 08:41 PM
I think it worked because my husband, the account holder, called Telus and authorized the release of my number in advance of me attempting to port the number to PM. The authorization was on Telus's system so when the request came in inintially, as myself being the authorized accountholder, Telus rejected the port. Once I unticked the checkbox, indicating I was not the authouirized account holder, this lined up with Telus's information and the port was successful. I'm speculating...
11-21-2016 08:20 PM
11-21-2016 05:19 PM
In my case, my mistake was not unticking the I'm authorized box. It was my husband's account and thus he was the one that actually authorized the release of my number. Once I unticked the I'm authorized box, the port went through with no issue.
Hope this helps.
11-21-2016 03:11 PM
11-21-2016 02:23 PM
Yes, I've clicked the "I am authorized" box, @imm1304. Tried again today and still get error message.
11-21-2016 02:15 PM - edited 11-21-2016 02:16 PM
@Rockdaddy22 wrote:
What about speakout and PC mobile. Why on the main Wikipedia page for public mobile does it list it as an MVNO? I didn't think PM was an MVNO but I didn't want to argue about it. Someone should edit that Wikipedia page.
@Rockdaddy22 it's funny but there are even contradictory Wiki pages about MVNOs
In general to actually be an MVNO it means the carrier (or parent carrier) does not own the network
So anything that gets touched by Rogers/Bell/Telus are automatically out
A few groups are protesting that the big3 make it unfair to enter Canadian market
I mentioned Ice Wireless and Sugar Mobile before
Can't beleive I forgot about Roam Mobility
11-21-2016 09:23 AM
Dave,
I'm one of the new PM customers who signed up with this promotion a couple of weeks ago. I had zero issues activating my account, porting my number from Telus (except for a mistake that I made not unticking a checkbox) and receivied my SIM 2 days after I ordered it. I echo your statements - I'm betting that many of the issues customers are having are due to small mistakes when signing up (similiar to the one I made). I did post a service request to PM (but solved my own problem prior to hearing back). I did appreciate that PM followed up with me to ensure everything was working ok.
Thus far my expereience with PM has been excellent. I look forward to helping others in the Community and being a longtime PM customer. Like many others here, I appreciate transperency and open communication with the community.
All the Best,
Alon
11-21-2016 07:35 AM
11-21-2016 03:23 AM
Thanks for addressing all of these issues. That being said, PM is still the best value phone service in Canada by far, and is getting steadily getting better. With this amazing plan that was offered for the week, I am sure lots of customers will notice how amazing the service is as well. Glad to be a customer of Public Mobile!
11-21-2016 12:24 AM
@texwood wrote:
@makkahn28 wrote:@kav2001c, PC Mobile is kinda on a different Awkward ownership
PC Mobile, Postpaid is Telus
PC Mobile, Prepaid is Bell
In addition, "PC" could also means Petro Canada, which is similar to 7-11 which runs off Rogers.
I just joined the forum less than 5 min ago, so I didn't get to read the entire thread. I'm referring the term "PC Mobile" could have different context depending on the audience.
11-21-2016 12:21 AM
@kav2001c wrote:@makkahn28 you have that backwards
Prepay is definately Telus
I was not mentioning postpaid because previous poster was discussing MVNOs (prepay)
No - PC Mobile prepaid is Bell, PC Mobile postpad is Telus.
Proof: on CRTC Wireless Code page, compliance reports were posted for all vendors that have submitted one.
Click on the link "Compliance Reports" and you will download a .zip file of all reports. Inside you will find a document that says Telus Compliance Report Abridged. On p.3 of the report it reads as follows:
In this Compliance Report, TELUS provides its answers to the questions as set out by the Commission for its TELUS, Koodo and PC Mobile[3] brands.[4]
[3] TELUS is the underlying wireless service provider for PC Mobile postpaid services only. PC Mobile prepaid services are provided by a different wireless service provider.
11-21-2016 12:10 AM
@texwood I thought they displayed Petro? Never seen them in a long time so I could be wrong.
11-21-2016 12:08 AM
@makkahn28 wrote:@kav2001c, PC Mobile is kinda on a different Awkward ownership
PC Mobile, Postpaid is Telus
PC Mobile, Prepaid is Bell
In addition, "PC" could also means Petro Canada, which is similar to 7-11 which runs off Rogers.
11-20-2016 10:52 PM
please update the community!
when will PM resume the sale of SIM cards online?
is it possible PM to open a discussion and make daily updates what is the average response time of its CS?
and maybe updates of other challenges and problems and how PM is addressing them.
it will be better that PM tells us rather than members tell their stories how long it took Customer Service to respond.
thanks!
11-20-2016 10:50 PM
@makkahn28 you have that backwards
Prepay is definately Telus
I was not mentioning postpaid because previous poster was discussing MVNOs (prepay)
11-20-2016 10:45 PM
@kav2001c, PC Mobile is kinda on a different Awkward ownership
PC Mobile, Postpaid is Telus
PC Mobile, Prepaid is Bell
11-20-2016 09:53 PM
@Rockdaddy22 wrote:
7-Eleven speakout and PCmobile I believe are MVNO's not owned by a big 3
7-11 = Rogers
PC = Telus
11-20-2016 09:52 PM
@Rockdaddy22 the only real MVNOs we have in Canada are Ice Wireless & Sugar Mobile
The rest are either flankers, fake competition, or small regional players who sign roaming agreements with big3 (Tbaytel, Videotron, etc)
11-20-2016 09:42 PM
Hi @anneh14,
Please edit your post to remove your email address. All personal info must be provided to the community moderators via a private message.
Send @Shazia_K a private message with your info. Include the sim card number you used as well.. so its easier to find your account and fix the issues.
11-20-2016 07:52 PM - edited 11-21-2016 07:32 AM
Dave,
I appreciate this summary but I can't log into self serve and my phone number is not receiving or allowing me to call or text. I get a message on the phone saying the plan doesn't include texting.
I only activated, and did not port yet. I have sent the mods a pm
11-20-2016 05:23 PM
11-20-2016 05:20 PM
11-20-2016 05:19 PM
11-20-2016 05:16 PM
@Rockdaddy22 sorry if I mislabelled Public Mobile as an MVNO. My main source of information (outside this community) is Google and Wikipedia, and they both categorize Public Mobile as an "MVNO". One purpose of this thread is to explain and emphasize Public Mobile's strategy of "Doing wireless different" from any other MVO or MVNO - and PM certainly does things differently. The precise distinction in terminology seems (to me) somewhat pedantic, and more importantly, changing the formal designation doesn't seem to substantially redefine anything about what PM really is or how it really works.
Why compare PM vs MVNOs? What else is there to compare against?
11-20-2016 04:50 PM
11-20-2016 02:21 PM - edited 11-20-2016 02:21 PM
If that is the case should there be some sort of disclamer in the fine print? Or is there already?
11-20-2016 02:04 PM
Agree, let's be realistic...Technically speaking PM is a MVNO under Telus.
Although PM don't throttle speed but that doesn't mean PM has a high tower priority.
For example, Google Fi has a low tower priority since it is a MVNO under Sprint, T-Mobile, and U.S. Cellular.
But don't get me wrong, Public Mobile still has a great network. You can totally expect LTE quality, which is much better than 3G network. I just won't expect PM is as fast as Telus/Bell when it is peak hours.