LTE Band Support/ Smartisan Phone

[fisher]

smartisan Phone Band 

FDD-LTE

B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8

TD-LTE

B34 / B38 / B39 / B40 / B41

Is that fully support PM all band ? 

[sheytoon]

Yes, perfectly fine for GTA.

[fisher]

 so ?

how about GTA area.?  should be fine for LTE right ?>

[fisher]

what? 

is that means bad ? cannot use for PM networks ?

[fisher]

i dont know , maybe android 7.1   but they did lots of changes. 

there are lots of features in new version. you should see the phones review before you buy it .

[fisher]

yep, looks nice... i like it .

[kav2001c]

@srlawren sampling music or listening to radio type streams would be impossible to save locally (unless it was like a podcast type thing)

But many people do listen to same songs many times (sometimes repeatedly if you have kids you know what I mean lol)

[srlawren]

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@kav2001c wrote:

I would much rather invest in an SD card, and failing that buy a phone (or tablet) with more memory

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@kav2001c hence my interest in the 128GB version of the OP5T.  🙂  I'm a bit old fashioned in that I'm not a big music streamer*, and prefer to purchase the tunes I like on iTunes (old habit--I should probably move to Google Play Music store).  I like having a local copy and listening whenever I want without using up any of my data bucket, much like yourself.

* the exception would be sampling new tunes on YouTube sometimes to see if I like them enough to want to pick them up on iTunes later.  

EDIT: fixed humourous typo; although I am also not a big music steamer, I intended to say music streamer.  LOL.

[kav2001c]

@srlawren close enough for the argument

You are normally just over 1MB per minute

Assuming an 80 minute CD you would be in the 850 to 900 MB range (compression would depend on complexity of the song)

Even at a lower bitrate it still is dumb to stream same song multiple times (since you are far more likely to listen to a new song you like more frequently) plus couple with the fact you need to pay Google Play real money for their services

I would much rather invest in an SD card, and failing that buy a phone (or tablet) with more memory

[imm1304]

Thanks for the info, @sheytoon.  Good to know.

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@sheytoon wrote:

 @imm1304

B40 is an independent TDD LTE network, and not accessible by mobile customers.

Also B17/12 is the only LTE band available in some rural areas, so location is important.

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[sheytoon]

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@imm1304 wrote:

Hi @fisher!

The bands you list will make this phone compatible with PM's LTE network.

Namely, Bands 2, 4, 7 and 40 are there.  The only one missing is Band 17.. but thats a minor band.  More importantly, band 4 is there which is widely used.. and also I find my phone connecting to Band 2 a lot in the GTA.  

You can expect excellent LTE coverage with this phone.

Also, make sure it has 3g/WCDMA bands 850 and 1900.  You need those bands for phone calls.  

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@imm1304

B40 is an independent TDD LTE network, and not accessible by mobile customers.

Also B17/12 is the only LTE band available in some rural areas, so location is important.

[srlawren]

@will13am everyone has different threshholds and priorities 🙂

[srlawren]

@kav2001c a gig per CD length of mp3?  Are you sure about that?  I think even at max 320Kbps mp3 maxes out around 150-200MB for a CD, no?  It's been so long since I purchased and ripped CDs it's hard to remember, but I think that's about right.

[kav2001c]

Streaming a CD (MP3) wiill use close to a gig per listen (worse with other formats)

Forget about video

Far easier to store it locally on your phone

(Oh & Play costs you $$$)

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@will13am wrote:

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My music is stored on the play music service.  Anything I need that is too large to carry around sits on Google drive.  

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[will13am]

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@kav2001c wrote:

I would argue a large storage space or high memory is more important than cpu

Also the whole purpose of purchasing a no name Chinese brand is the throw away factor

It is nice if phone last 2+ years, but really even high end name brands do not last that long so it is not realistic to expect a budget brand to

Plus price wise you can buy new cheap phones much more often

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My music is stored on the play music service.  Anything I need that is too large to carry around sits on Google drive.

My wife goes through phones pretty fast.  It's definitely the Chinese brands for her.   

[will13am]

@srlawren, well now you have me depressed carrying a phone that's manufactured in 2014.  Yet, all the right boxes are checked.  It's got quick charge capability, on the car charger, charge rate is 3% per minute.  It has a removable battery, micro SD slot.  The SD801 is a bit long on the tooth, but it will compare will with 6xx series CPUs.  I would love to get a OP5T, but in use I don't see a lot of difference with what I current have.  If xiaomi would only drop the price on the mi mix.  

[kav2001c]

I would argue a large storage space or high memory is more important than cpu

Also the whole purpose of purchasing a no name Chinese brand is the throw away factor

It is nice if phone last 2+ years, but really even high end name brands do not last that long so it is not realistic to expect a budget brand to

Plus price wise you can buy new cheap phones much more often

[srlawren]

@will13am to each their own.  🙂  I think I'd be pretty depressed if I kept a phone that long!  😉  

Sevearl years ago, I pretty much hopped onto every new BlackBerry that was available, about every 9 months or so for a few years in a row.  My pace has slowed down a lot now.  I think my past 3 phones (current OP3, previous 1st gen Moto X, BlackBerry Z10) have all averaged about 18 months or so. 

[will13am]

Phone prices are so high these days, I focus a lot on the software side when considering what to purchase.  One to two years of OEM support is grossly inadequate.  If I had to rely solely on Oppo support, I would be stuck on Color OS 5.0.1.  Onmi is still issuing 7.0.1 updates.  I need three to four years of support which is end of hardware life in my books.  Xda is the only recourse. 

On the hardware side, the vast improvements over the years mean that even entry level 4xx series snapdragon CPUs will work fine for average use.  As long is there is at least 3 gigs of ram, 32 gigs of internal storage with micro sd slot, that should be enough. 

[srlawren]

@will13am a phone doesn't necessarily need 6GB of RAM.  This phone offers a choice of RAM (4 or 6) and a boat load of storage options (32, 64, 128, 256) all at different price points.  So if you don't want 6 GB of RAM and 256 storage you cold pick up the cheapest model or if you want more you can spend more and get more.  Isn't choice what Android is all about?  🙂   On the other hand, if you are a heavy multitasker (I always have a boat load of stuff open on my 6GB OP3) then it actually can be beneficial to be able to hold more apps in memory at once and not have them reloading when swapping between apps.  But everybody's needs is different.

All that said, I wasn't necessarily recommending this model and I have no idea what it's software support will be like.  And I'm not really familiar with the brand either, but I'm guessing @fisher is and is comfortable with them since he or she wants to buy this phone.  Nothing wrong with that.

As for me, I'll stick to the more mainstream options as well, and can barely wait to submit my order for an 8GB/128 OnePlus 5T.  I know, 8GB is overkill but I want the storage so I can give up carrying around my old 64GB 4th gen iPod Touch for music like I do today in addition to my phone.  So, the upgrade is worth it to me. 

[will13am]

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@srlawren wrote:

@will13am $270 - $497 USD?  That's actually not bad for a phone with up to 6 GB ram, up to 256GB storage, and a 6" 18:9 FHD+ display.  The 660 is still a very capable chipset and I think is the latest in the upper-end of the 6xx series middle tier chipsets, with the latest LTE x standard and so on.  

EDIT: fixed the upper end pricing.  Still, an iPhone X with 256GB storage is well north of a grand USD....  

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Why does a phone need 6 gigs of ram or 256 gigs of storage?  Personally, it is there fine, not going to pay big bucks for it though.  I love the idea of having a 6 inch screen, I could go for 7 inch if the bezel size is small enough.  I am not saying a 6xx series snapdragon is bad, the fact is it is a mid range CPU and deserves mid range pricing.  On the software support side, I will not spend that kind of coin on an unknown android device whose manufacturer has no pedigree in North America.  How much software support are you going to get from the OEM?  Count on zero.  Some of these Chinese roms are so bad that they don't even officially support google play services or play store.  Everyone of them have no app drawer and looks like a poor immitation of iOS.  This is why I am amadant that xda support be there.  My Oppo and OPO are dinosaurs but I continue to enjoy access to periodic firmware updates.  If you want 6xx series SD phones on the cheap, check out the Xiaomi redmi note 4.  They go for around $200US.  There is adequate xda support. 

[srlawren]

@will13am $270 - $497 USD?  That's actually not bad for a phone with up to 6 GB ram, up to 256GB storage, and a 6" 18:9 FHD+ display.  The 660 is still a very capable chipset and I think is the latest in the upper-end of the 6xx series middle tier chipsets, with the latest LTE x standard and so on.  

EDIT: fixed the upper end pricing.  Still, an iPhone X with 256GB storage is well north of a grand USD....  

[will13am]

This phone is pretty pricey for a 6xx series SD CPU.  Moreover, when I checked xda for support for this brand of phone, the cupboard was pretty bare.  I would give it a failing grade. 

[srlawren]

@fisher "Smartisan says the phone will receive an update to Smartisan OS 4.1 starting from December 7. The update will bring a total of 131 new features and 63 optimizations. It will also update its Big Bang feature to version 2.2." what OS is it based on?  Is it Android 7.1.x Nougat or 8.x Oreo?

[srlawren]

https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/11/07/smartisan-nut-pro-2-launched-5-99-189-display-5-different-vari...

Looks interesting!  6" 18:9 FHD+ display, Snapdragon 660, etc...

[fisher]

thanks .

but i dont have much phone calls . most of time i use the network with wechat,.

[fisher]

坚果pro2  is the latest cell phone for Smartisan Phone.

release this month ！

[srlawren]

@fisher if your plan includes a talk component, then 3G is definitely important, since PM does not offer VoLTE.  The good news is that WCDMA bands 2 and 5 are the ones you need, so you're covered there, too.

[fisher]

Smartisan Phone （锤子手机） 

its a chinese phone company.   

4+32G    340 CAD

4+64G    370 CAD

6+64G    425 CAD 

6+256G   600CAD

three different color

[imm1304]

according to willmyphonework.net, there are 3 models of this brand.  T1 only supports 3G 1900 band so 3G coverage will be spotty with T1.  T2 and U1 are the other 2 models that have both 3G bands.

3G is important for phone calls.  Without 3G compatible phone, you won't be able to make or receive phone calls.  It seems like you have the T2 model.  Which is good.  

[fisher]

thanks for reply.

3G band 

WCDMA

B1 / B2 / B4 / B5 / B8

TD-SCDMA	B34 / B39
EVDO	BC0 / BC1

3G is not a big deal for me .  I am more concerned about the 4g problem