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stanschanuzer
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

Why is my plan expired when I'm on auto-pay? This is confusing.

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@ThosD 

Ummm....thats called post paid service.

 

Simple fix for your issue. Use autopay as your back up plan and just pay for your service before you recieve it. Get the reminder to pay text. Pay for it before midnight eastern on the night of your renewal. Done. No worries. No lost service. Takes about a minute maybe two to top up manually.

 

Then perhaps on a really hectic day when the toilet overflowed and your car didn't start and your kid has a toothache.....and you forget to pay your phone bill. That's the day autopay kicks in and pays for your phone services and you can call a plumber, CAA and make an emergency dental appointment and get on with your day.


@ThosD wrote:

Really? We can receive 4K video from Mars, but I have to get up at 3 a.m. and/or 6 a.m. eastern time to check if auto-pay has taken place on my cell phone account and if not, I have to potentially spend the next 48 hours checking/fixing the account payment?

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You are on a low budget provider...

 


1. Offer voice/text only (i.e. no data allowed) accounts so that there is no question as to how much data was used - t should be zero on a voice only account - and just charge the  agreed upon amount, Voice calls are cut off after the number of allowed minutes are reached

isn't that this is $15 plan?  PM even nice enough and throw in 250MB data for free

 


2. Have the system do everything that the above suggestions tell us to do ourselves manually

 


the system is doing everything automatically for renewal  already.. isn't it?  The part being "manual" is just when Autopay failed..

 


3. Allow a longer grace period so that people who have actual lives and can't monitor/fix their accounts daily have time to do so without losing service

 


Yes, this is called postpaid service.  Except that it is offered by Koodo and Telus

Honest,  the grace period idea is good.. but... prepaid is prepaid.. you pay before you use.. just like a vendor machine...pay and you get your drink

 

 


4. Switch to a conventional monthly cycle instead of 30 days so that one can direct a fixed amount to the PM account from one's bank account

5. Write some code and fix the existing problem(s)

 


4. monthly cycle is a good ask .. 

5. Fixing the issue is certainly a good ask and something PM owes us

 

ThosD
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Really? We can receive 4K video from Mars, but I have to get up at 3 a.m. and/or 6 a.m. eastern time to check if auto-pay has taken place on my cell phone account and if not, I have to potentially spend the next 48 hours checking/fixing the account payment?

Fix:

1. Offer voice/text only (i.e. no data allowed) accounts so that there is no question as to how much data was used - t should be zero on a voice only account - and just charge the  agreed upon amount, Voice calls are cut off after the number of allowed minutes are reached

2. Have the system do everything that the above suggestions tell us to do ourselves manually

3. Allow a longer grace period so that people who have actual lives and can't monitor/fix their accounts daily have time to do so without losing service

4. Switch to a conventional monthly cycle instead of 30 days so that one can direct a fixed amount to the PM account from one's bank account

5. Write some code and fix the existing problem(s)

Just a couple of thoughts...

darlicious
Mayor / Maire

@stanschanuzer 

Here is a timeline of how your renewal works. While it renew at midnight eastern and any minute or data counters will reset as well the actual renewal has been delayed lately by about 6 hours. But basically as long as you have service you are good to go.

 

3 days before your renewal you will get a reminder to pay text from pm (611). You will get this text whether you have paid ahead of time or not or whether or not you are set up for autopay. You can use this as your reminder to top up your account.

 

At about 6pm on the evening before renewal your account status will change to expired as your 30 day plan is about to expire. Unless you have no services this is perfectly normal.

 

On the day of your renewal at midnight eastern your plan will renew and any counters ( like data) in your account will reset to zero (0/1024mb). Rewards will be converted and applied to your balance as available funds.

 

At 2am eastern your plan amount will be debited from your available funds in your balance. If there is insufficient funds in your balance to cover your plan amount the difference will be charged to your autopay card as an automatic top up. Your card statement will show this amount+taxes.

 

Your payment history will show 30 DAY PLAN....$10 and depending on your plan either your applicable data amount 1 GB OF DATA AT 3G SPEED....$15  or 3GB/$25 or 5GB/$30 and so on or for the $15 plan the talk portion 100 Minutes Talk Booster......$5.

 

If an automatic top up and/or the plan/data/minute debits/credits do not show in your payment history by 3am eastern you have likely suffered an autopay fail. You will have until 6am eastern to make a manual top up and reactivate your plan. If reactivate does not take your plan amount from your balance then briefly suspend your service via lost/stolen. This forces the payment and the transactions will show up in your payment history.

 

At 6am eastern any account  that has not paid for their plan amount in full will have their services suspended or if its been 90 days these accounts will be cancelled and deactivated and lose their phone number. Active accounts will change from expired/suspended to active status. Occasionally this process is delayed up to 6 hours or so....check your transactions in your payment history for confirmation.

 

At noon eastern you will recieve two texts from 611. The first confirms your rewards were successfully applied to your account. The second confirms your plan has successfully renewed. Not recieving the second text indicates an autopay failure.

 

There is a glitch recently that causes the rewards applied successfully text to be delayed by 12 hours and come in at midnight eastern after renewal day.

stanschanuzer
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

Thank you I will try that.

softech
Oracle
Oracle

@stanschanuzer   is your plan going to renewed tomorrow, October 1?   If so, that's normal, usually after 6pm on the night before renewal, the plan will change to Expired.   No worry, as long as your service is not interrupted.   Autopay will get processed in the next couple hours and your account status will be active tomorrow morning. 

Anonymous
Not applicable

@stanschanuzer 

go sign in to Self-Serve, to review your account,

1. Click on Payment

2. Make a Payment

3. one Time Payment 

4. you will see your Amount Due:$ !

5. Payment Type: selected other ( Enter the desired payment amount )

6. how much you see at Amount Due:$ ! you will do manually enter Amount: $ ! + $1 extra

7. Tax: will collect automatically,
8. Click ‘Submit’,
9. after payment gone through, you have to do Rebooting your phone

what is mean for Rebooting the phone means to turn off your phone and turn it back on again.

 

10. and how much you pay the extra is will going to your account Available funds:$ ! has the amount left,
and for next bill cycle the will take it from there automatically,
 

and if still not fix it follow this,

  1. Add Funds to your Plan Amount through Self Serve  
  2. Go to “Plan and Add-Ons” TAB
  3. Select "Lost/Stolen Phone" TAB
  4. Select "Suspend Service" BUTTON
  5. Then, Select Resume/Reactivate Service
  6. Reboot your phone.
  7. what is mean for Rebooting the phone means to turn off your phone about 2 minutes and turn it back on.

t_p
Mayor / Maire

@stanschanuzer wrote:

Why is my plan expired when I'm on auto-pay? This is confusing.

 


 Is your plan on renewal today?

If yes and if you still have service, it's normal.

The system will take the payment from your cc and eventually the "expired" message will disappear.

But if later you discover that your service is lost, that means autopay has failed. You'll need to log in to make a manual payment and reactivate the account. Usually, that should restart the service but if the issue is not resolved, you may need to try Suspend then Resume as @esjliv mentioned above to get it going.

esjliv
Mayor / Maire

@stanschanuzer wrote:

Why is my plan expired when I'm on auto-pay? This is confusing.


@stanschanuzer 

 

Do you still have services? 

If yes, this could be your account going through the normal renewal process. The SELF SERVE account can say "expired" or "suspended" on the day of or before your plan is due to renew. So if this is the case, ignore these messages on your SELF SERVE account.

 

If you have no services, and it is past your renewal, maybe your autopay failed?

  1. Add Funds to your Plan Amount through SELF SERVE (or by calling 611 if you have a card registered)
  2. Go to “Plan and Add-Ons” TAB
  3. Select "Lost/Stolen Phone" TAB
  4. Select "Suspend Service" BUTTON
  5. Then, Select Resume/Reactivate Service
  6. Reboot your phone.

If this was an Autopay failure, I would let the Customer Support Agents (CSA) know.

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