06-19-2020 04:31 PM - edited 06-19-2020 04:32 PM
Is Telus (Public Mobile) going with Huawei in the future? What about the present? Hoping they go with other.
What about Rogers and Bell are they going to be using Huawei Towers?
06-21-2020 09:38 PM - edited 06-21-2020 09:38 PM
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06-21-2020 09:32 PM
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06-20-2020 12:28 AM
@Anonymous
When I say this in my head it's shrugging saying I dunno...but in text it's gonna read as snotty.
How should I know? Go to a shareholders meeting and ask.
See. Sounds snotty. I'm just saying I dunno. 🙂
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You could’ve JUST said, “I dunno”. 🙂
I’ll DM ya with a text as to what’s in my head right now. Lots of snottiness. Lol 😂 👍
06-19-2020 11:30 PM - edited 06-19-2020 11:40 PM
I hear you. To answer your question, the radio equipment definitely has intelligence and processing capability. But its only link is to Telus routers, eventually connecting to Telus/Bell core networks, where every packet can be captured and analyzed. I don't see how user data can be sent to China via the core network. The radio equipment is not connected to any external networks.
The only thing I can think of, is if the base station can somehow create an encrypted tunnel by itself and encapsulate data to a new destination over the internet. I don't even know if something like that is possible. Maybe someone with IP expertise can comment.
06-19-2020 11:00 PM
@sheytoon wrote:@Anonymous what exactly do people need to trust? It's radio equipment, not core. What can Huawei or the Chinese government actually do?
Not a clue. It's all suspicion and innuendo. I have no clue how deep any installed equipment goes. If it's just dumb radio transmission then maybe that's fine. Or is it? Or what is installed somewhere else intercepting those radio signals...a la Stingray. If there's some semblance of a microchip with software in it somewhere then the possibilities are endless. I don't know how the infrastructure of a cell system works so I don't know at what point nefarious deeds can be performed.
Of course we have our own cops and spy agencies watching over us too but at least they're internal. Then our allies. That's certainly problematic to me. But to have a not so friendly authoritarian government with its hands in all of its internal affairs ... leaves one to wonder.
Then there are the two camps of privacy. 1. what do I have to hide? 2. I have everything to hide.
A mobile transmitting device carried around by _everybody_ has its whole host of possibilities. But we trade that for the convenience of an always-with-us communication device and mobile connection to the internet.
All we can do is hope and trust that what we do and share on the device is not being abused by unwanted actors.
blah blah blah paranoid conspiracy theories everywhere...what'r'y'gonna do 🙂
06-19-2020 10:03 PM - edited 06-19-2020 10:04 PM
@Anonymous what exactly do people need to trust? It's radio equipment, not core. What can Huawei or the Chinese government actually do?
06-19-2020 10:00 PM
@sheytoon wrote:
What is the problem with Huawei in the RAN exactly?
Geo-politics. Trust in the supplier due to geo-politics. Trust in a governing body having any authority over that supplier due to geo-politics. Siding with allies that might have issues with all of the above due to geo-politics.
06-19-2020 09:44 PM
Today's news is Telus go with Samsung for 5G
06-19-2020 09:37 PM - edited 06-19-2020 09:41 PM
The latest information that I have is that Bell will be using Ericsson and Nokia for 5G RAN. Telus has not specifically announced a RAN vendor. My suspicion is that they will use Samsung for 5G RAN, Ericsson/Nokia for 5G Core, and they may or may not make a decision on a second RAN vendor.
Telus already uses Huawei for 3G and 4G RAN.
Rogers uses Ericsson for 2G, 3G, 4G, 5G RAN, with Huawei for 3G RAN in BC, AB, SK.
Bell uses Huawei and Nokia for 3G and 4G RAN.
What is the problem with Huawei in the RAN exactly?
06-19-2020 07:19 PM
@TMS wrote:@Anonymous
Will Telus do away with their existing Huawei Equipment? We here at PM probably won’t be using 5G anytime soon, so does that mean we are still on Huawei equipment?
When I say this in my head it's shrugging saying I dunno...but in text it's gonna read as snotty.
How should I know? Go to a shareholders meeting and ask.
See. Sounds snotty. I'm just saying I dunno. 🙂
06-19-2020 05:08 PM
Yes @TMS , it seems that all of the major telecommunication companies use its equipment to varying degress with Rogers being the least invested. See article.
06-19-2020 05:01 PM - edited 06-19-2020 05:02 PM
Does Rogers use Huawei for any of their towers (equipment)?
2G, GSM, 3G, 4G LTE?
06-19-2020 04:59 PM
06-19-2020 04:55 PM - edited 06-19-2020 04:57 PM
I rather doubt it @TMS if they do, it will be a gradual process over an extended period of time. We will get 5g before they are finished. Probably redundancy will do it. Stay safe.
06-19-2020 04:51 PM
@Anonymous
Will Telus do away with their existing Huawei Equipment? We here at PM probably won’t be using 5G anytime soon, so does that mean we are still on Huawei equipment?
06-19-2020 04:49 PM
06-19-2020 04:43 PM - edited 06-19-2020 04:44 PM
06-19-2020 04:37 PM - edited 06-19-2020 04:39 PM
@RossN What? 5G!
06-19-2020 04:34 PM - edited 06-19-2020 05:17 PM
@TMS wrote:Is Telus (Public Mobile) going with Huawei in the future? What about the present? Hoping they go with other.
What about Rogers and Bell are they going to be using Huawei Towers?
@TMS that is highly doubt full since they already have the best coverage across
Canada any 5G upgrades to their towers will not be with Hauwei
06-19-2020 04:33 PM - edited 06-19-2020 04:38 PM
They aren't @TMS . There was an article that said that both Bell and Telus were going with a Swedish and a Finnish company. Stay safe.
Heres a link to the article. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bce-5g-ericsson-1.5594601