Is it normal for WIFI ON & LTE symbol to disappear, WIFI OFF and the LTE symbol to reappear?

[B_Muller]

I've LG G6 H873 and there is no WIFI callings feature.

My LTE symbol would only appear when I turn off the WIFI, or this is normal?

Under Network, I'm getting -103 dBm 37 asu, does that mean PM/Telus is not so good in my area?

Thanks.

[kav2001c]

In normal status, when WiFi is on your data is off

There is a setting (buried, nearly hidden) where you can FORCE data to stay on even while on WiFi but most people do not use this (as speed gains are minimal and battery drain is much higher)

[skpatriot]

Yes this is perfectly normal. Most android phones do this and it only means you are using your network data when that appears. Dont worry. 

[Mbaltzer]

Yes rs its normal its showing what your using either the lte or wifi usual will display whatever gives you the best signal if you move away from wifi as it gets to the weekest point of going in and out it will switch to lte i think your phone has a setting that you can have it so it will automatically switch between what has the best signal 

[mtfolks]

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@B_Muller wrote:

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@sheytoon wrote:

Without getting too technical, you should keep it on auto.

The phone and network will constantly communicate to make sure you fallback to a lower technology if needed.

GSM does not exist on PM. You can only use WCDMA or LTE. Otherwise you will roam on Rogers GSM for emergency calls only.

You cannot compare RSCP of WCDMA with RSRP of LTE. One is a narrowband measurement, the other is wideband. They are measuring completely different things.

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Thanks again.

I guess one should not pay too much attention to the signal strength/Bars levels as long as both the caller & receiver can hear each other clearly and loudly.

This. I wouldn’t get too hung up unless you start experiencing issues. 👍

[B_Muller]

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@sheytoon wrote:

Without getting too technical, you should keep it on auto.

The phone and network will constantly communicate to make sure you fallback to a lower technology if needed.

GSM does not exist on PM. You can only use WCDMA or LTE. Otherwise you will roam on Rogers GSM for emergency calls only.

You cannot compare RSCP of WCDMA with RSRP of LTE. One is a narrowband measurement, the other is wideband. They are measuring completely different things.

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Thanks again.

I guess one should not pay too much attention to the signal strength/Bars levels as long as both the caller & receiver can hear each other clearly and loudly.

[mynamejc · Accepted solution]

On android you should see the LTE symbol under the following conditions:

- Wifi disconnected, mobile data enabled.

- Wifi off, mobile data enabled.

- Wifi on and connected (but no connection to internet), mobile data enabled.

In the third scenario, recent versions of Android detects whether a wifi connection is actually usable and will fall back onto data when it's not. This will be indicated by a LTE/3G icon over your mobile signal and (depending on the device) a grey/wifi symbol with a question mark.

[sheytoon]

Without getting too technical, you should keep it on auto.

The phone and network will constantly communicate to make sure you fallback to a lower technology if needed.

GSM does not exist on PM. You can only use WCDMA or LTE. Otherwise you will roam on Rogers GSM for emergency calls only.

You cannot compare RSCP of WCDMA with RSRP of LTE. One is a narrowband measurement, the other is wideband. They are measuring completely different things.

[B_Muller]

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@sheytoon wrote:

Older phones support some bands only, so most likely you are on a lower frequency with better coverage. If you were to force your current phone to use low band only, your signal would be much stronger.

Voice calls are on 3G, which uses a completely different technology and measurement for signal strength.

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Thanks.

Well, I set my LG G6 Network mode to GSM only (instead of GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto) and I'm getting Max 5 bars, signal strength -69 dBM 20 asu. LTE problem?

[sheytoon]

Older phones support some bands only, so most likely you are on a lower frequency with better coverage. If you were to force your current phone to use low band only, your signal would be much stronger.

Voice calls are on 3G, which uses a completely different technology and measurement for signal strength.

[B_Muller]

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@sheytoon wrote:

Yes, it's normal under most Android phones. When LTE appears, it means data is using LTE. Otherwise it's using WiFi.

As for the signal strength, -103 dBm RSRP is an adequate LTE signal level, especially if you're on a high frequency band like B7. Cell edge would be around -125 to -130, so you still have lots of margin.

Conversely, an excellent signal would be -85 or higher.

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Thank you.

According to Telus coverage map, I should be getting excellent signal (Vancouver, BC near city center, mid-level apt in a high rise building) tons of Telus towers surrounding my area......dunno why?

I tried out the Public Mobile SIM in my old Galaxy S3 and I'm getting -89, using my Speakout/Rogers SIM from Galaxy S3 in my LG G6 and I'm getting max 5 bars and around -65, what gives? I got my LG G6 from Koodo/Telus, so phone compatibility should not be an issue, right?

Edit:

@This is getting crazier, when the phone is idling I'm getting 2 to 3 bars MAX and when I'm making a call e.g calling *611, I could see the signal going up to MAX of 5 bars and the dBm @ -81 to -85, why?

[sheytoon]

Yes, it's normal under most Android phones. When LTE appears, it means data is using LTE. Otherwise it's using WiFi.

As for the signal strength, -103 dBm RSRP is an adequate LTE signal level, especially if you're on a high frequency band like B7. Cell edge would be around -125 to -130, so you still have lots of margin.

Conversely, an excellent signal would be -85 or higher.