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Upcoming Changes to our Old Rewards Program

J_PM
Public Mobile
Public Mobile

Hey Community,

We have an important announcement to share with our subscribers who are currently enrolled in our old Rewards program.

We’re making changes to our rewards program and are sharing how these changes impact some of our subscribers. Starting in May, we’ll be retiring our old Rewards program and moving all subscribers to our Public Points™ program. 

We launched the Public Points™ program in January 2022 to provide our subscribers with more ways to earn and spend rewards, with greater flexibility. As part of our commitment to continuously evolve our products and services, it's time to retire our old Rewards program and shift our focus on enhancing our Points program.

To show our appreciation for your continued loyalty, subscribers on our old Rewards program will receive a special thank you. We'll send you a text message when it has been added to your account by March 31st. 

We’re excited to continue providing you, our valued subscribers, more opportunities to earn and spend rewards with Public Points™ moving forward.

To learn more about your move to Public Points, check out our FAQ here.

The Public Mobile Team

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@ShawnC13 wrote:

Ok question time, I have read a lot of posts about people willing to pay more for same/similar services, will never use a Telus provider again and are leaving in May.  If the trust has been broken so bad why wait?  If the rewards were change to be maybe a bit closer to the original would you stay?  I am just asking because Telus knows not everyone is leaving.  If everyone has had the trust broken so bad that they can never support Telus again to make a real impact they should have ported out the day they got the message of the changes.  I know some people did, but a lot haven't.

Might not be a popular statement/question but when people are saying they will pay more and are leaving in May why even give Telus 2 more months of your money?


I help manage  a whole bunch of accounts, a fair amount of them are $13 plans. Ever since the 30% price increase (without any additional benefits) we have monitored options for these plans. I moved a few of them to Freedom at BF/BD, plus for one where usage changed considerably the timing was perfect for the BC port promotion. The others would have stayed at PM "long term", but now we just can't justify paying full price for extremely little included features, when these people are already seriously scrambling to keep a roof over their head and get a proper meal a day. We will use up remaining available funds and data and will port out as soon as we are faced with paying the full $13...

Those plans were great for the according subscriber group at $10 bucks when they first came out. While some people downgraded their existing PM plans, I ported several lines from SpeakOut because of better value (for some going back there is a real consideration now). I believe most of my referrals would still have switched if the $10 had been excluded from the rewards program, similar to the 10day plans in the plan builder. I argue that, had PM taken that route when launching the $10 plan, there wouldn't have been the need for the 30% increase two years ago (which arguably was to offset all the $0 payments that this plan made way easier). And, if they didn't see a 100% price increase now (again, with no additional perks), there would be less disillusionment and people would be more likely to stay here. So, technically, Public Mobile is actually punishing these vulnerable clients the second time, for something that could have been forseen and mitigated before the launch of the plan. It might not have been as popular, though.

I gather that, unless someone is in the situation themselves they don't understand what it means, but I say it again: This is hitting the low cost low usage plans the most. Trying to bully them to take this lying down and discouraging them from porting to a better value option is disrespectful. (Yes, of course, it is a step up to pay $119 when your yearly bill used to be $72, but as of May, PM is going to be $156. So paying $47 more, but still saving $37... in fact if you compare that $119 by features (unlimited Talk & Text, 1.25GB at 4G), it would actually be $300 at PM as of May. For these people the network is similar if not better at the other provider, so that is not an argument.)

 

Markaps
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Stranger things have happened!

Max1288
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

Yes i have also got this. It seems to be a copied and pasted message after all. Good idea to reply that i will try.

giaboni
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

I received the exact same reply from Telus (Public Mobile) regarding my CCTS complaint and in their reply to the CCTS they refer back to their Service Terms (see screenshot) but I replied back to them and I CC'd the CCTS saying that the Service Terms are NOT the issue, the REAL issue is they MISLED their customers and LIED to their customers where they CLEARLY said we will have "more opportunities to earn" yet on average everyone will lose on average about 70% (in my case 80%) in rewards dollar value by month by going to the new rewards program in May 2024.

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JDBlue1966
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

Thats no good. Thanks for the information. Back to the drawing board.

Max1288
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

Like you can't call and text outside of their app. Is a VOIP service.

JDBlue1966
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

What you mean everything happens?

Max1288
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

The thing is that everything happens in their application, it's impossible to text or call otherwise. This is turn me off. This has some disadvantages, you won't be able to call in your car among others.

ily
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

I managed to find the table. Thank you 😉

JDBlue1966
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

Anyone think this provider is good? Fact it includes roaming, appeals to me. We go away a few times a year.IMG_8384.jpeg

Max1288
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

Guys, Telus answer me about the complaint Here is part of it what do you think about that?

Public Mobile is of the opinion that the complaint should be considered outside the scope of jurisdiction under article 4.3 of the Code of Procedure since the customer contests a change to the
rewards program, which is subject to Public Mobile's policies and procedures. Furthermore, the necessary notice of more than 30 days has been given, and the customer has not experienced any impact so far,
as the change is scheduled to occur in May.

Public Mobile is awaiting the CCTS' decision regarding the objection to this issue.

Sincerely,


@Michael6666 wrote:

The numbers are pretty tight, depending though, I may still just go on over to fizz for the pricing stability guarantee. 


@Michael6666 Too bad they aren't country wide. They look like a viable alternative for some.

Michael6666
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

This makes a ton of sense. 

It has simply pushed a lot of people to look at other providers, I hadn't even considered any in years as I saw this benefit as long term and my loyalty was bought.

The numbers are pretty tight, depending though, I may still just go on over to fizz for the pricing stability guarantee. 

Michael6666
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

It depends on your total account spending. And it's per line. 

The more lines you have the quicker you get the rewards (it's based on cost and community interactions). I've had internet for 2 years and I'm at 5$ per month for that.

My 3 discount slots are open for mobile, I'll report back when I know. I think I remember seeing the table on their website which I wouldn't be allowed to post here

ily
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

Do you know how long it takes to get the $6 loyalty discount?

@Michael6666 Thanks, but FIZZ isn't in the Maritimes.


@Wolfcore wrote:

My philosophy is to always take some time to breathe. Relax a bit, let things settle. 


@Wolfcore Something that took me a lot of years to learn.

Michael6666
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

Fizz, after 6$ loyalty discount will get you down to 27$ (33$ until you get that loyalty discount) per month for 20gb Can US. This data will rollover and you can change to a lower tier plan and keep that rollover data (even a plan with no data can use that rollover data, for two additional cycles!). The plan price is also contractually fixed as long as you don't change plan! Refreshing no? 

You can also transfer data through the community for those that are just a little short that month.

You also get customer service through chat. 

I have them for internet and I can guarantee you that if this goes through, 2 of my 3 accounts are instantly moved, there's just no advantage to stay at PM anymore. 

@JDBlue1966   Yes, of course, principles are very important and I do have my red lines about certain things and money wouldn't persuade me to abandon those principles, but it doesn't involve a phone line despite some of the dishonesty that PM executives have engaged in regarding their promotion of the benefits of the new points system.  However, I respect that others' have different priorities.

Wolfcore
Deputy Mayor / Adjoint au Maire

Some people are too quick to react. They hear an announcement, and think it's over. They don't leave room for redemption. Some people also just took this announcement as huge disrespect, and that's it. Even if PM were to reverse this decision, they'd still consider the company to have betrayed their customers (and only caved because of outrage). To some, the damage is already done, and there's no coming back from that.

If PM were to reverse this decision, you'll see a lot of people from the first group, coming back here to complain about how it's unfair that they lost their legacy rewards, and they only left because of the announcement, and will demand that they get them back (which, of course, PM won't do).

My philosophy is to always take some time to breathe. Relax a bit, let things settle. Until the action is officially performed, there's always a chance that the other party will come to their senses. If not, then you just leave when it officially goes live.



@Public_Cust_17 wrote:

@hTideGnow  with 30 years experience working in IT, I wouldn't give you a cent for your reports which are soooo secret that you can't explain your testing rationale and how you reached your conclusions.  Go find another sucker.. 🤣


Hey, finding out if a service works for you is rocket science! Need to leave it to the experts, who have studied the subject for a decade or more, to find out. Of course you also have to trust them - they would never be biased based on their own preference or *gasp* the prospect of personal gain.

 

 

Or if you really are serious and want to do your homework, you could just get a prepaid SIM from the provider in question, sign up for a month's plan and try it out. If it works out for your needs, have them switch you to the yearly plan (if that is the goal) and port your number, if it doesn't work for you, close the account. Done. (I know that going with a postpaid plan and cancel within 2 weeks is another option - as long as you are ok with and are able to pass a credit check...) If you are at PM right now, you either are reasonably tech savvy yourself or have a friend (!) who is.

@Soon-ex-PM-user totaly agree not judging at all was just trying to get a bit more feel of everyones situation

 

 


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RetiredGuy1
Town Hero / Héro de la Ville

Yep, good point as by leaving now they forfeit their grandfathered protection (ie loyalty rewards) should PM have a change of heart and perhaps keep that aspect of the legacy program. 

JDBlue1966
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

It’s the principle for me. Rather pay a bit more and get better service. 

Soon-ex-PM-user
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

For some people,  it is about money then principle.

For other people, it is about principle so they have left Public Mobile already.

and so on... 

You can't judge people for their reaction and expect everyone to be the same.

We all have our reasons same as your situation and your reasons.  Respect. 

Wolfcore
Deputy Mayor / Adjoint au Maire

Well, hopefully I've helped you understand why. But yeah, a lot of people HAVE left already. How many? Not sure, but there are definitely a lot.

dabr
Mayor / Maire

@kb_mv   I've said right from the start of this discussion that PM's recent offerings with tons of data/US features for plans in the $34+ range are very competitive and I wouldn't see any reason for those customers to feel the need the switch providers even with the legacy rewards being discontinued in May.   Obviously, that isn't the case for those on PM's basic plans.

@RetiredGuy1 What I find interesting about the people that have left already is what will they do if Telus/PM does as you suggest and reconsider and/or compromise? Not withstanding the leaving 2 months of rewards on the table.

RetiredGuy1
Town Hero / Héro de la Ville

Why wait? Two thoughts come to mind: 1. Over the next 2 months, better plan deals may materialize either here or elsewhere and 2. To apply their current rewards against their next 2 bill cycles. For those who are so upset at PM/Telus that they will leave on principle then 1. may not apply but it makes no sense to me to leave earned rewards on the table for an entity you are so upset at for them to keep for themselves. In that scenario, I confess I’m as puzzled as you. Besides, who knows - maybe PM will reconsider a compromise solution that will still meet their objective to a degree and save face while placating the legacy rewards clients enough to stay.

Soon-ex-PM-user
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

great post @Renzha

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