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Mayor / Maire

Re: Threads going off topic

Wow...trial by innuendo!  Unamed participants who are supposedly gaming the community rewards and haven't responded to this thread because they know they are guilty as charged by some in this thread? 

 

Disappointing and sad comments.

 

 

 

 

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Threads going off topic

Oh my! How interesting the way this discussion has wound it's way into "gaming" the system in the interest of earning community rewards. While mentioning this in my original post the intent of starting the conversation was more about where off topic conversations should be moved to....and whether they should be in discussions, a new category or the lounge. The lounge being a category for non pm related subjects and therefore contributions there do not have any influence on community rewards...and rightfully so. My proposal of a new category that is related to pm and it's community and may or may not count towards rewards but would satisfy those who feel their posts have merit in contributing value to the community as a whole rather than counting toward a possible community reward.

 The top secret formula and those who administer it seemingly have the ability to distinguish between a high post and/or bravo count and actual value added contributions made by members. My own curiosity of one new users bump from top 25% to top 10% and comparing my stats to his and then his to other top 10% and top 5% contributer s revealed a very interesting fact. More than anything the quality of the post and the value it adds to the community is the single largest factor in deciding who receives rewards and at what level. Otherwise how would a member with a comparatively very low post and bravo count recieve a relatively high top % ranking? Because that member had an almost exclusively high quality post ratio compared to all others. Hardly a solution from any of them, no stock answers hurriedly copied from a clipboard. Just insightful, educational and helpful posts that enriched the community and deservedly rewarded by the powers that be.

New public mobile customers or older ones who flood the community with poor posts will soon tire of ther efforts when they see no compensation for their time. This should not discourage those of you who know your contributions are valued and needed because of your individual expertise on certain subjects. But at the same time purposely taking to task certain members whose contributions are needed and wanted by many but feel slighted , annoyed or irritated by criticism  that is really unwarranted should only be directed at the actual would be gamers is directly causing members that we need and many who have responded to this thread to step back from the community. This is a very sad reality and i for one would hate to see public mobiles community become average and just like all the other "community forums" out there.

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Threads going off topic


@darlicious wrote:

Oh my! How interesting the way this discussion has wound it's way into "gaming" the system in the interest of earning community rewards. While mentioning this in my original post the intent of starting the conversation was more about where off topic conversations should be moved to....and whether they should be in discussions, a new category or the lounge.


This thread was very recently brought to my attention, and yes, this thread IS rather interesting, not only that it contains some of the same people that seem to be obsessed with so-called "gaming" of the forum, but also that the portions of the thread that have meandered their way into "gaming" are actually off-topic, and yet they remain in this forum, instead of the Lounge..... very interesting indeed. 🤔

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Mayor / Maire

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Threads going off topic

@darlicious 

 

I know I am new to the forum, like 3 days. And don't know much about what bravos do. But that being said have definitely seen threads that seem to be more like inception where there are two or three threads inside a thread. Which kind of organically happens. I don't think people try to do this but it ends up happening because of a comment made or something like that. 

 

Would you suggest if the comment being made is not on the same topic to open a new discussion and tag the person that you want to talk with about said topic?

 

I'm not sure how to handle this, as I said new to the rules, but say it and it shall be 🙂

 

Cheers

 

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Threads going off topic


@will13am wrote:

@darlicious , TL;DR.  I am going to say the community at large is at fault, no specific finger pointing but guilt is not evenly spread of course.  When I joined the community forum 3 years ago, it was not nearly as active as today.  It has become a competition for the tiny amount of community rewards to the point that the waste of human capital is just astonishing.  Yet, people want that glory to be on the top of the leaderboard.  They are willing to camp here 18 hours a day and take short cuts like make multiple accounts and do self promotion to get there.  When there is nothing to respond to, people will continue to discuss existing and old threads to page 5 just to keep the post count up! 

 

How do you police this kind of nonsense?  No amount of post movements and categorization will fix it.  What people need to do is take stock of the effort they put in against the potential rewards they get out of it and recalibrate their time here.  Get a life so to speak.

 


This makes sense for sure. One question I would have is for the new people that have questions like myself. I have been looking through Old post just to see how this community started where they are going etc. I didn't realize that was frowned upon to discuss in the forum? 

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Threads going off topic


@srlawren wrote:

@will13am wrote:

How do you police this kind of nonsense?  No amount of post movements and categorization will fix it.  What people need to do is take stock of the effort they put in against the potential rewards they get out of it and recalibrate their time here.  Get a life so to speak.


@will13am I've said it before and I'll say it again:  there's an easy solution--stop giving out communtiy rewards.  Once that happens, the people that are actually in it to help will continue to do so, the people looking to make a quick buck will head to greener pastures, and the communtiy will be way better for it as a result.  I know that I'm in the minority with this opinion, but I really do think it would be for the best after the dust and outrage settled.


I totally agree with you on this remove rewards, but I'm new, so maybe that is frowned upon...

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Threads going off topic


@darlicious wrote:

@computergeek541  I just realized my post commenting on the tweaking of the quality of posts.... disappeared just as i posted because i briefly lost my internet connection. Aargh and were as i can usually find the whole thing in my unmoderated items in this case i only have the first line in my drafts.....more to come on that later.

@will13am  Yes it is very interesting who has chosen to discuss this thread as I was expecting a few participants to be quite active and opinionated on its subject and the fact that it is still considered a discussion. All of the presumed interested parties are still online with the exception of one. So perhaps they are just monitoring and choosing not to comment for reasons only they know.


Feeling like an outsider looking in... are comments not actually calling people out promoted? If you guys ever felt that hey Naepalm dude you need to watch how much your posting or stay on topic or whatever the issue is I can tell you guys I don't have a problem with that. Again coming from guy that's been here three days LOL 

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Threads going off topic


@gpixel4 wrote:

@darlicious I was actually gonna make this post, but I thought it would be too rude. I've noticed the exact same thing where all it does is point you to a moderator. it's just rinse repeat, rinse repeat. it's just spamming the post. a lot of members aren't even reading through the whole post realizing that what they're posting has already been said. most of the answers aren't even helping the OP. if the OP was already directed to the moderators then leave it at that. if you're not gonna give  quality answers that actually helps the OP and just direct them to a moderator then don't bother. I think this discussion is good because they're definitely reading it. saving a buck or two isn't really worth it to me, but for me seeing all the complaints on Facebook and then actually having a different experience than them I actually wanna try to lead people to PM cause it's actually a good company. maybe not for the older generation (technology inclined) but for someone with a little bit of knowledge it's a great company in my opinion. that's why OP's need quality answers cause most of them are people who don't know much about technology. the community is supposed to be the help instead of the moderators. 


Speaking of going off-topic, I might just do that now, let me know if I need to make a new thread. Does it make sense to always point people to the moderator? I thought it made more sense to point them to the help page or SIMon. Some questions I noticed you can solve with a quick google search. But I'm good with doing the google search for them and posting a solution if it helps people out.

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Oracle

Re: Threads going off topic

@Naepalm , PM would like people to raise a trouble ticket through SIMon.  Many people direct members to private message the moderators and in most cases that is not how Public Mobile wants their customer service to run.


* I am happy to help, but I am not a MOD please do not include any personal info in a private message to me, click the "?" in the bottom right to create a trouble ticket *
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