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Mayor / Maire

Re: Reflection on the Community

 


 

Honestly, I really don't like commenting on these types of threads because it just seems to feed into a lot of negativity, unnecessarily IMO and I don't understand why people have become fixated on the number of bravos or so called quality/quantity of posts (a concern that started before some of the newer posters, I might add).  Especially since you go can probably go back to older threads and see similar concerns expressed years before all this recent activity.  

 

There's many newer users here who have far outpaced me in the number of posts and bravos, and it would make sense that someone posting a greater quantity, then their bravo total would also be that much higher and as long as they provided some useful advice/suggestion to the OP I don't see the need to complain about that because there are no "official" rules being broken here.  It is the system PM has designed and if there is some major problem and people are getting rewarded for providing incorrect information, then it is up to PM to fix it.  

 

Personally I would also prefer that if either PM staff or Oracles have concerns with a particular user "gaming" the rewards, then they should send a private message to that user about their concerns first.   Maybe, or not, that may give some users something to think about if they received a heads up that this is not the ideal way to participate before accusations are made in the community forum and should only be done after exhausting other options.  Anyway, that's JMO...

 

 

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Oracle

Re: Reflection on the Community


@Naepalm wrote:

@will13am  a post like this is SUPER helpful for me, now knowing that the community culture is Bravos = Thank you for putting in the effort. And are not considered a like 👍button, this essentially changes how I think about giving bravos out.

 

Previously If I comment on a thread I would just cycle through the thread and hit the bravos button, unless someone said something mean. Not because I have a pact, but because I thought that's what you do. Sorry for my naive approach. Figuring out whats what has been a process in the making for sure! LOL 

 

Have a swell day! 🙂


This board is very different than a platform like facebook.  One of the parameters used to assess community rewards is bravos.  When the top performers consistently bravo each other's post, there is an element of gaming going on to ensure maximum rewards.  These days, bravo count is no longer a measure of merit.  Sadly, neither is overall activity.  Back in the day, threads rarely exceed one or two posts and almost never one page.  Quite often, those responding subsequently with the same response would delete their own responses and apologize for being repetitive.  Today threads are rarely shorter than several pages with the same individuals posting over and over again?  I appreciate people want to be sociable while helping other members.  What we see is not being social.  Imagine if you went to the help desk for a question and several people go ballistic with response after response and completely overwhelm you.  Is this being helpful or hurtful?  The poor person seeking help here is going to have to wade through 5 pages of discussion between several members to sort out what the proper solution is to their problem.  Is all the nonsense after the first couple of replies of value or detriment?  To me it is totally off putting.  I know the offenders hate me for being open with my opinions.  To be fair, you have to walk a mile in the member's shoes that actually has the problem and is looking for help.  Long story short, the main forum is a help forum first and foremost and not a place for "social release".  

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Reflection on the Community

@will13am hi maybe we should be more like Simon the bot and not be sociable at all?🤖🤖🤣

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Deputy Mayor / Adjoint au Maire

Re: Reflection on the Community

Wow, this was an interesting reflection from @ShawnC13. Thanks for putting things in perspective here. I mostly agree with the Oracles here, even when I first started in 2017, I think the most I saw was about 1100 posts in a month. It's crazy to see people getting over 2000 bravoes, and seeing some of the new people after a day or even 3 weeks, have passed some top contributors and getting bravoes in the hundreds, for a buck or two! 

What people won't do for a few bucks. A community such as this one, I think is a group of people who share common goals, attitudes and collaborate on open questions and queries. Such communities have become the template for a cohort-based, for many businesses customers and clients. 

Some people know how I feel all about this. And yes, I had my share of the run-ins with oracles. But @shep22, I have to tell you Oracles are customers too. Yes, they get the automatic $20 bucks from their accounts, but they are paid customers like you. They are basically customers who have been with Public Mobile as far back as 2015. They may have a $40 or $50 plan, do they still have to pay the other $20 or $30 a month. Yep, they are customers because they have to pay (not including the other rewards either!)

 

We all had our share of the run-ins, don't take this post or any other posts as a direct personal attack on you. Cooler egos prevail! 

 

We are welcome to say anything you want, just watch the way how one says it. No profanities, no racist remarks. No putting 'I' comments versus 'YOU' comments. And being down-right rude to one another. As a time in reflection, in a time where uncertainty, we should be helping one another with open arms. I also like this 'It's karma, what goes around comes around! 

If you want to discuss the matter or if the topic goes off, maybe move the discussion to the Lounge or a private chat. The Lounge technique is a great way to acknowledge the value of the idea, while at the same time keep us on track with the original goal of the post. This allows us to successfully accomplish the meeting goals – and still take advantage of the great brainstorming that was naturally inspired by the collaboration.

 

To the other post-ers such as @popping , @Naepalm , @darlicious , you all make valid points. I do disagree that we need new Oracles. Maybe add a few fresher heads in the team, but not changing the old with the new. 

I also agree the community forum is a great way, NOT so much the bravo'd board.

 

But, then again, nobody really knows, but there could be a crazy-ass formula, such as taking the averages of the bravoes. They could be removing all the posts from users with just one post, and taking the top of the leaderboard, and averaging it all out. Don't forget solutions has a play in this as well. There are months I thought I was in the top 5%, but got rewarded as a Top 10%.

 

For example, for the month of April, I am at 20th out of 968 users at this time of post. This equates to 2.1% but, when it comes to rewards, I will be in the top 10%! Guarantee!

So, I wouldn't get bent out of shape, nobody knows, and I am glad, keep everybody on their toes. 

 

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Reflection on the Community

@mpcdesign your writing is like therapy to me lol. You have this calm demeanour about you and it truly is refreshing to read. Thank you for helping us new people to feel welcome and supported in these rough waters. look forward to being a long time PUBLIC MOBILE customer!

 

Cheers

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Reflection on the Community

@ShawnC13 I had a different reply, but because of people answering so quick. I edited my post. that's amazing I got 6 Bravo's. thanks for showing me that lol

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Reflection on the Community

@mpcdesignwhen you think about it, let's say youre on here 16 hrs a day refreshing your browser to be the first reply. and you get to the top 1%. you're basically getting payed .03 cents an hour by pm. 😂 

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Retired Oracle / Oracle Retraité

Re: Reflection on the Community

High bravos amounts aren't a good thing. It doesn't mean that more people are being helped. On the contrary, it could mean that less people are being helped. Everyone has different standards on what deserves a bravo. I can accept that. However, the thinking that eveyone is getting more bravos just isn't a true. A handful of people are getting more but others will often get nothing unless posting nonsense or irrelevant information.  This doesn't help anybody.  it makes it harder for people to find the answers that they're looking for. It's comes to the point that even flat-out wrong answers get multiple bravos now. How is anyone supposed to know what's correct when that happens?

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Reflection on the Community

@computergeek541 yeah I agree with you, I see that alot. but bro, I'm #18! I'm killin it right now 💪. gblackmas a quick popper though, what can you do?

 

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Deputy Mayor / Adjoint au Maire

Re: Reflection on the Community

@gpixel4, i guess 

 


@gpixel4 wrote:

@mpcdesignwhen you think about it, let's say youre on here 16 hrs a day refreshing your browser to be the first reply. and you get to the top 1%. you're basically getting payed .03 cents an hour by pm. 😂 


if you truly want to spend 16 hours a day, refreshing your browser window and be the first reply sounds like you have nothing better else to do? 

For me, I rather not waste my time being the first reply, because there will always be something here who'll probably beat me a split second before me!

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