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Re: Question regarding cell towers


@sheytoon wrote:

@ccdevmike send me the tower locations and I can check the bands. These days pretty much every site has 3G and 4G.

 

I would say the solution you selected is incorrect.

 

@computergeek541 antennas are usually directional, not omni. This means there is a certain beam pattern / beamwidth with the highest gain. Outside of the main lobe of an antenna, signal strength will be lower than inside.

 

Also, I don't agree with your statement that signal quality doesn't matter. Higher SNR results in higher modulation, less errors, less call drops, less handover failures and more network capacity.


@ccdevmike @gpixel4 @sheytoon 

I agree with Sheytoon. The chosen solution is not likely to be the cause of all this and I've left the solution vacant. First, while in standby, or any time that the phone isn't in a phone call, it's going to prefer the LTE network if the network conditions are acceptable. That means that any such tower ID app is going to be far more likely to report that the user is connected to an LTE network  So, the phone isn't going to give preference to a further away HSPA tower.  The likelihood of there being an LTE-only site there is also low. From my understanding, the LTE-only sites are usually in places that never had cell phone coverage up until recently.

 

Sheyton:

I could swear by it that the defunct Mobilicity network was extremely omni-directional. There was something about it that struck me how the coverage seem to go further in any direction, but the signal readings were usually lower than Wind whose network often gave better readings, but those better readings were in less places. That became obvious, at least to me, because of how in my area, Wind and Mobilicity both had antennae on top of the same building.

 

Perhaps, I shouldn't have said that signal readings don't matter. Everything matters to a relative extent. All I mean is how a less than an ideal connection can still give a perfectly useable voice connection and work to the extent that there's no difference in voice quality, should the quality of signal not fall below a certain threshhold. I do not believe that voice uses all that much bandwidth under normal circumstances. Also, when it comes to a weaker signal reading, it's also possible that the phone could be hanging on to HSPA band 2 instead of switching over to band 5, the latter which would likely give a better reading.

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Re: Question regarding cell towers


@Nezgar wrote:

@ccdevmike wrote:

https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=302&MNC=220&type=LTE&latitude=49.018619014013126&longitude=-123.8...

 

this is the tower Im wondering why Im not connecting to.


cellmapper.net tower locations are not accurate. They are estimated/extrapolated/triangulated based on observations uploaded from people running their android app while they travel around. The tower you are referencing may just have been a stray one time observation of that particular channel/carrier. The tower may actually be somewhere compeltely different. The ertyu map uses actual tower data from a public CRTC database.


Cellmapper.net site locations can be several kilometers off. For some networks, the app developer has replaced the crowd sourced calculated locations with confirmed cell site locations.

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Re: Question regarding cell towers

@Nezgar I know phisically where this Telus tower is as it's on the property next to me and can walk right up to it. I'll have to do some tests while walking around it to see why I don't connect to it. Even my old s5 neo which does not has a sim card installed does not connect to it... Mind you it does not support 4g. But still If it had 3g also, it should connect......

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Re: Question regarding cell towers


@ccdevmike wrote:

@Nezgar I know phisically where this Telus tower is as it's on the property next to me and can walk right up to it. I'll have to do some tests while walking around it to see why I don't connect to it. Even my old s5 neo which does not has a sim card installed does not connect to it... Mind you it does not support 4g. But still If it had 3g also, it should connect......


If it's that close, it likely doesn't serve your property. Especially with an antenna being high up, it may very well skip right over you and that means that's your out of range, as strange as that might sound.

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Re: Question regarding cell towers

@ccdevmike 

Maybe it serves a newer LTE or 5G band that your phones in question do not support.

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Re: Question regarding cell towers

@computergeek541 this is what I'm thinking. I'll go up there again and check my app. What cell network analysis app do you like? I like cellmapper and network cell info so far. 

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Re: Question regarding cell towers

@Nezgar perhaps? I should try the same app on my wife's phone who is on Telus and see if she connects to it! It's an iPhone. 

Sorry this is going on and on but I guess we are all learning something 😀

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Re: Question regarding cell towers

Sorry I never heard the answer as to what volte is?

 

 

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Re: Question regarding cell towers


@ccdevmike wrote:

Sorry I never heard the answer as to what volte is?

 

 


phone calls using the LTE network

 

Public Mobile doesn't have that.

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Re: Question regarding cell towers

Sorry disregard! Google is your friend.....?????

VOLTE Voice over LTE. Sounds interesting!

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