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darlicious
Mayor / Maire

Re: Has anyone else done a comparison between carriers?

@Karnbot13 

    In my opinion previous to reading the two studies presented by yourself and @mobileuser I would think there is a significant cause and effect of increased device use on both mental and physical development of children and adolescents and lasting affects throughout adulthood. Primarily the effects are negative. A simple analysis could be made by comparing a 50 year old and a 20 year old making change from a $20 bill. Overwhelmingly the 20 year old requires the use of a calculator ( or a cash register) to make the correct calculation to make change and/or calculate the tax rates. This simple analysis is to show the differences the two adults experienced throughout childhood having instant access to a device that does the "thinking" for them or not and how it correlates to their individual cognitive developement or to put it simply their ability to figure things out on their own without the help of any kind of electronic device.

 

      While I follow the reporting of scientific studies that affect the well being and health of humans and retain enough knowledge to be able to make broad based assumptions that are true ( higher sodium intake significantly increases your risk of heart disease and stroke). I read the first study provided by @mobileuser and was prepared to comment when your response and your study had appeared. I read your study and your stance that there is little research to substantiate  @mobileuser claims that limiting screen time by a parent is in the interest of the preventing possible mental and physical development of children being impaired by overuse of electronic devices and increased screen time.

        I find it interesting in rebuttal you choose study with limited results but with an overall conclusion that the use of the internet in school, at home and in the community could not draw a definitive conclusion to its negative effects with a slight correlation to a possible increased benefit. The study was done because there was little previous conclusive studies beforehand and determined larger research studies would need to be done in the future to get a better analysis of the effect.

 

      @mobileuser study had a definitive conclusion of the negative affects on the mental well being of children with medium to high screen time amounts compared to no or low screen time amounts.

The two studies have big differences that negates your argument.

  1.  @Karnbot13 study was conducted and then published in 2010.  Basically before the emergence of smartphones and social media and the increased use of instant (text) messaging in daily life.
  2. @mobileuserstudy was conducted and then published in 2018. A lifetime in the terms of the development of portable electronic devices, their abilities and their entrenchment of their use in daily life compared to before 2010.
  3. @Karnbot13  study was a select sampling of 91 children with an average age of 10. Both the children and parents/teachers responded to study questions.
  4. @mobileuser  study was conducted with a broad based sampling of over 40,000 children aged from toddlers to adolescents up to the age of 17. Observational behavior was reported by the children over 7, younger children's caregivers, parents and teachers.
  5. @Karnbot13  study was based on internet use of visiting websites, educational and noneducational based games accessed via the internet, email and instant messaging accessed via the internet.
  6. @mobileuser  study was based on screen time across all types of electronic devices and included text and instant messaging, social media, gaming devices both handheld and stand alone, traditional internet use such as email and television and/or video viewing.
  7. @Karnbot13  study had low reporting of overall use of the internet. High use was in approximately 15% of the study participants.
  8. @mobileuser  study reported a high use of devices and screen time with little or no use reported in about 10% of respondents.

 

    Your choices and opinion and how you parent is your own and unless it contravenes the law is entirely up to you. But to present an argument that there is very little conclusive research and evidence to support @mobileuser  parenting stance on limiting screen time for the benefit of their children based on a decade old study is just plain.....stupid. I would have thought you could find a better research study than the one you presented unless you were counting on no one reading either study to make a legitimate comparison between the two.

BODY
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

Re: Has anyone else done a comparison between carriers?

But do you have Unlimited data ??

dabr
Mayor / Maire

Re: Has anyone else done a comparison between carriers?


@BODY wrote:

But do you have Unlimited data ??


@BODY   Sorry, no unlimited data at PM and very unlikely to be anytime soon, although it's always possible sometime in the future I guess.

BODY
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

Re: Has anyone else done a comparison between carriers?

Ha I had Unlimited Data when I 1st got my plan here with public mobile so I bought 2 more cells for my Grandchildren Bang.... lol unlimited data is Gonzo & now MY Unlimited Data is GONE as of today!!!! Wth I am NOT a Happy camper 

so I will be taking all 3 of my cells elsewhere after this payment ends TY very much bye bye 

hairbag1
Mayor / Maire

Re: Has anyone else done a comparison between carriers?


@BODY wrote:

Ha I had Unlimited Data when I 1st got my plan here with public mobile so I bought 2 more cells for my Grandchildren Bang.... lol unlimited data is Gonzo & now MY Unlimited Data is GONE as of today!!!! Wth I am NOT a Happy camper 

so I will be taking all 3 of my cells elsewhere after this payment ends TY very much bye bye 


It looks like you started a PM account in 2021...I don't ever remember seeing anything about Unlimited data being on any plan, at any time. Maybe you mis-interpreted what you were signing up for.

We'll still be here when you get back.

dabr
Mayor / Maire

Re: Has anyone else done a comparison between carriers?


@BODY wrote:

Ha I had Unlimited Data when I 1st got my plan here with public mobile so I bought 2 more cells for my Grandchildren Bang.... lol unlimited data is Gonzo & now MY Unlimited Data is GONE as of today!!!! Wth I am NOT a Happy camper 

so I will be taking all 3 of my cells elsewhere after this payment ends TY very much bye bye 


@BODY    When did you get your plan that offered this unlimited data?  Sorry, but I've never heard of unlimited data ever being offered at PM unless there's some very old grandfathered plans where it was given, although I've never heard anyone mention that either.

 

But if unlimited data is important for you, then yes you can get that from the other providers and luckily with PM there is no contract to worry about as you only prepay for 30 days.

BODY
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

Re: Has anyone else done a comparison between carriers?

So I wonder... WHY did I have Unlimited Data when I first signed up with PM. Js a Scam or wth 

Im Not Happy !!!!!

hairbag1
Mayor / Maire

Re: Has anyone else done a comparison between carriers?


@BODY wrote:

So I wonder... WHY did I have Unlimited Data when I first signed up with PM. Js a Scam or wth 

Im Not Happy !!!!!


Good question. When did you sign up for unlimted data ? How much were you paying on that plan ?

darlicious
Mayor / Maire

Re: Has anyone else done a comparison between carriers?

@BODY 

Public mobile had nevet offered unlimited data since its inception over 10 years ago. I am not sure what plan you are on but if you activated around Christmas time when a 5gb data add on was offered as part of pm's promotion for new activations of $25+ plans as well as a "more the merrier" 2gb data add on gift from pm available thru your account then you probably have been merrily using up your plan data each month and dipping into your add ons for continous, uninterrupted data service that seemed like unlimited data but you have now actually hit your limit.

 

All other providers offer unlimited data that once you hit your plan limit is throttled to as low as 64kbps with chatr up to 512kbps with the top tier big three and the standout Sasktel at an impressive 2mbps. But you will pay more for the most part with these mobile providers and you are still subject to fair use limits and possible roaming fees and data overage charges like koodo's impressive $130/1gb overage charges.

 

By all means if you feel you can get a better deal elsewhere for "unlimited data" then port your numbers out of pm but I suggest you pay better attention to your usage and read the small print of your new service agreement or you just might suffer from "bill shock" when and if you get dinged with most other provider's extra fees , overages and extra billing charges that do not exist here at public mobile. Except the shock that you misunderstood how public mobile works and when you do run out of data here public mobile simply cuts off your access to data until you purchase a data add on ( that rolls over each 30 days until completely consumed) or you renew early.

AE_Collector
Mayor / Maire

Re: Has anyone else done a comparison between carriers?

@BODY 

IF you just signed up with Public Mobile in the last 2 or 3 years you DIDN’T have unlimited data. As someone else said...confusion over some promo maybe. Some Promos over the last couple of years have given bonus data for several months, or more frequently have given a data add-on that is a single block of data (likely between 1GB and 5 GB) that kicks in if you use up all of your data in the 30 day plan you are on helping you through to your next renewal when you get a new batch of plan data. But thats it. Yo need to figure out what you had so you can determine if you really are in bad shape without it now as maybe you finally used it all up.

 

Public Mobile has been real good about giving away blocks of this add-on data to all customers on occasion rather than giving dead slow unlimited data. It is a different way of doing things but avoids taking the already throttled data that third tier providers have and then throttling it EVEN MORE and calling it “unlimited data”. Frequently users report that it is virtually useless it is so slow.

 

JMHO AE_Collector

 

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