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Eister
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

Re: Where to get sim, Walmart not giving it

I went to London Drugs in Vancouver last week and the service was great.  They offered the purchase of a PM Sim card, or a Sim card plus registration.  Either option for only the $10. price of the Sim card.
Have purchased twice from them and both times all went smoothly! 🙂

beedle
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Re: Where to get sim, Walmart not giving it

The Mobile Shop at Superstore was great. Good service, technical knowledge and advice at the one I went!

Korth
Mayor / Maire

Re: Where to get sim, Walmart not giving it


@Beer wrote:

Try Ebay - 


Not a good idea, lol.

 

A pseudonymous vendor you may never be able to identify or contact (or legally persecute), even if the vendor keeps the Ebay account active instead of erasing or abandoning it for another.

 

And the risk of a compromised SIM card - the vendor may have simply copied the "secret" SIM ID number, the vendor may have hacked/modified the SIM card contents (and even introduce OTA script vulnerabilities or loggers which circumvent SmartTrust) - which is just begging the buyer to be the next victim of a technical or nontechnical SIM fraud crime.

 

Most Ebay vendors are legit. Few Ebay vendors are criminals.

But far fewer official vendors are criminals. And their opportunity to commit the crime is far more limited if they give you a sealed-by-PM SIM card without having a chance to write down the SIM card number or plug the SIM card into a SIM card reader.

 

The little chip built into a SIM card is just as valuable to thieves as the little chip built into a bank card or credit card. It's a physical security token attached to online security, like a key for a lock, and you don't want anyone else to copy that key or modify that lock. Just not worth the gamble of buying them from unofficial sources, even if it saves you ten bucks.

LurganIeUk
Mayor / Maire

Re: Where to get sim, Walmart not giving it


@Korth wrote:

@Beer wrote:

Try Ebay - 


Not a good idea, lol.

 

A pseudonymous vendor you may never be able to identify or contact (or legally persecute), even if the vendor keeps the Ebay account active instead of erasing or abandoning it for another.

 

And the risk of a compromised SIM card - the vendor may have simply copied the "secret" SIM ID number, the vendor may have hacked/modified the SIM card contents (and even introduce OTA script vulnerabilities or loggers which circumvent SmartTrust) - which is just begging the buyer to be the next victim of a technical or nontechnical SIM fraud crime.

 

Most Ebay vendors are legit. Few Ebay vendors are criminals.

But far fewer official vendors are criminals. And their opportunity to commit the crime is far more limited if they give you a sealed-by-PM SIM card without having a chance to write down the SIM card number or plug the SIM card into a SIM card reader.

 

The little chip built into a SIM card is just as valuable to thieves as the little chip built into a bank card or credit card. It's a physical security token attached to online security, like a key for a lock, and you don't want anyone else to copy that key or modify that lock. Just not worth the gamble of buying them from unofficial sources, even if it saves you ten bucks.


If an eBay seller was one of those "intentional dishonest" ones...they would not be interested in a 99 cent rip off. I have run into very very very few that have not shipped and did not give me a refund. And no huge risk of 99 cents vs $10 plus tax??

On the other hand I have dealt with many many many more con artist eBay "buyers" and they are out there!!!!

Korth
Mayor / Maire

Re: Where to get sim, Walmart not giving it

@LurganIeUk 

 

They aren't interested in your 99 cents. Or your five bucks. They'll take it, of course, but it's not their main goal.

 

They are interested in setting up a victim for some kind of SIM fraud. If successful, they can access online accounts and even online money accounts. Maybe even go for all-out identity theft which steals things from the victim which aren't directly accessible through the phone. At the very least they can get somebody else to pay for "free" service on a burner phone for a short while. Sometimes they can even demand a "ransom" payment from the victim in exchange for returning all the cloud-account stuff they stole.

Or they aren't even the "malicious" criminals themselves. They're the information collectors and setup guys who make money selling the results of their work to other criminals.

 

They aren't all criminals. Yet many people still get victimized by these crimes nonetheless. SIM crimes are becoming rampant because they're alarmingly easy to accomplish and because it's becoming a big organized business in itself.

 

Why make it easy for them? Why risk it all to save less than ten bucks?

LurganIeUk
Mayor / Maire

Re: Where to get sim, Walmart not giving it

I suppose. But let’s not under mine every honest reseller. 

The reseller gains, possibly. 

PM gains. 

The buyer gains. 

darlicious
Mayor / Maire

Re: Where to get sim, Walmart not giving it

Strangely enough right now the very opposite is true right now with the title of this thread. In fact for a limited time Wal-Mart is giving it.....away for free along with a free month when You activate in store. For once I can say something good about Wal-Mart!

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