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luke11992
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

iPhone "Enable LTE" Question

Hi all, I have a somewhat dumb question that's mostly out of curiosity. On the iPhone (I have a 6s), under Settings-->Cellular-->Cellular Data options, there it the option to toggle "enable LTE".

 

I realize that Public Mobile's 3g plans are really just throttled LTE. However, is there any real difference between using the 3g option vs LTE? Maybe it was just a fluke, but I did data speed tests with LTE toggled both off and on, and both times I tested, my data was faster (only slightly, by about 1 mb/s) when using the 3g option vs LTE. The results averaged around 4mb/s vs 5mb/s, the faster speed with LTE NOT enabled.

 

Does enabling LTE using a different frequency or something like that? Just curious as to why I may have been getting this result, and if there's any benefit that should cause me to start enabling the LTE option on my phone.

 

Thank you.


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krazykiwi
Mayor / Maire

Re: iPhone "Enable LTE" Question


@luke11992 wrote:

Hi all, I have a somewhat dumb question that's mostly out of curiosity. On the iPhone (I have a 6s), under Settings-->Cellular-->Cellular Data options, there it the option to toggle "enable LTE".

 

I realize that Public Mobile's 3g plans are really just throttled LTE. However, is there any real difference between using the 3g option vs LTE? Maybe it was just a fluke, but I did data speed tests with LTE toggled both off and on, and both times I tested, my data was faster (only slightly, by about 1 mb/s) when using the 3g option vs LTE. The results averaged around 4mb/s vs 5mb/s, the faster speed with LTE NOT enabled.

 

Does enabling LTE using a different frequency or something like that? Just curious as to why I may have been getting this result, and if there's any benefit that should cause me to start enabling the LTE option on my phone.

 

Thank you.


Hi,

No dumb questions!

This has been pointed out a few times. LTE is more reliable than 3g but potentially you can get faster speeds with 3g. With LTE on you are being regulated by PM's throttling but with it off you are operating on the 3g frequency which is more vulnerable to spikes caused by usage and distance from towers and what not. I use a 6s as well and leave LTE on for the reliable service. The slightly faster speed really does not prove more beneficial than getting dropped service on 3g.

 

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krazykiwi
Mayor / Maire

Re: iPhone "Enable LTE" Question


@luke11992 wrote:

Hi all, I have a somewhat dumb question that's mostly out of curiosity. On the iPhone (I have a 6s), under Settings-->Cellular-->Cellular Data options, there it the option to toggle "enable LTE".

 

I realize that Public Mobile's 3g plans are really just throttled LTE. However, is there any real difference between using the 3g option vs LTE? Maybe it was just a fluke, but I did data speed tests with LTE toggled both off and on, and both times I tested, my data was faster (only slightly, by about 1 mb/s) when using the 3g option vs LTE. The results averaged around 4mb/s vs 5mb/s, the faster speed with LTE NOT enabled.

 

Does enabling LTE using a different frequency or something like that? Just curious as to why I may have been getting this result, and if there's any benefit that should cause me to start enabling the LTE option on my phone.

 

Thank you.


Hi,

No dumb questions!

This has been pointed out a few times. LTE is more reliable than 3g but potentially you can get faster speeds with 3g. With LTE on you are being regulated by PM's throttling but with it off you are operating on the 3g frequency which is more vulnerable to spikes caused by usage and distance from towers and what not. I use a 6s as well and leave LTE on for the reliable service. The slightly faster speed really does not prove more beneficial than getting dropped service on 3g.

 

If either response to your particular request leads to the resolution of your issue , please help other community members by marking that post as the solution. Thank You

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popping
Oracle

Re: iPhone "Enable LTE" Question

@luke11992

PM uses 3G for voice call.  You can use LTE or 3G for data.

I do not use iPhone. 

Can you set your iPhone to switch between 3G and LTE automatically?

If yes, that is the setting you should use.

 

When you are on 3G, you get the the fastest speed that 3G can provide.

When you are on LTE, you will be toggled down to 3Mbps.

krazykiwi
Mayor / Maire

Re: iPhone "Enable LTE" Question


@popping wrote:

@luke11992

PM uses 3G for voice call.  You can use LTE or 3G for data.

I do not use iPhone. 

Can you set your iPhone to switch between 3G and LTE automatically?

If yes, that is the setting you should use.

 

When you are on 3G, you get the the fastest speed that 3G can provide.

When you are on LTE, you will be toggled down to 3Mbps.


The way I understand it is that it depends on the carrier and in this case it will be automatic.

 

Here is how apple explains it.

DMC
Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Re: iPhone "Enable LTE" Question

You'll want to always have LTE enabled because it's lower latency than the 3G network.  I was originally on a LTE plan, but switched to 3G in september.  Like you, I speed tested the two networks and I also got higher speed from tests using 3G.  However, due to the higher latency of 3G surfing the web, instagram, reddit, etc was noticeably slower despite the higher speed.

 

Staying on the LTE network throttled at 3 mbits, I notice no difference from the LTE plan I was using for 1 1/2 years. However, I now get 5 gigs per month instead of 2 gigs, so I'm completely satisfied with the 3G plan, but wouldn't be if it was actually on the 3G network because that was noticeably slower for me.  I'm sure there's a difference if you were to play 1080p vids or download large files, but that would eat up too much data, so is not something I do.

sheytoon
Mayor / Maire

Re: iPhone "Enable LTE" Question

Enabling LTE will allow your phone to use LTE where available. It will still fall back to 3G when instructed by the network.

 

User experience will be similar because PM limits LTE speed on newer plans, as others have said. 3G speed is currently unlimited.

 

Both technologies use B2 (1900 MHz) and B5 (850 MHz), but LTE uses additional bands as well.

luke11992
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

Re: iPhone "Enable LTE" Question

Thanks for all the responses everyone!!

 

It sounds like I should just keep LTE on for better reliability and generally lower latency.

 

However, this morning on my way to work, I did another test, and I'll attach the results. Strangely, when on 3g, I got both faster data speeds (by 10 mb/s) AND a lower latency!3g3gLTELTE

sheytoon
Mayor / Maire

Re: iPhone "Enable LTE" Question

I would say your latency is basically the same for 3G and LTE. About 6 years ago when LTE first launched, it had much lower latency than 3G. That gap has essentially been eliminated with improvements to 3G, as long as your phone is not at cell edge (extremely weak 3G signal).

 

Also note your upload speed is much better on LTE. I would keep it on LTE if these results are typical for you.

luke11992
Model Citizen / Citoyen Modèle

Re: iPhone "Enable LTE" Question

Thanks for all the informative responses everyone!

TK123
Great Citizen / Super Citoyen

Re: iPhone "Enable LTE" Question

I have an iPhone too and had the same experience with LTE and 3G.  In my first three weeks on Public Mobile on LTE, I had three instances when my phone did not ring, but I got a notification of a voice mail while I was in a good reception area and my phone was not in "Do not Disturb" mode.  I googled this and found that because Public Mobile has only LTE but NOT VoLTE, the phone has to switch to 3G in order for you to receive an incoming call (or any call).  I have simply switched to 3G and have not missed an incoming call again.

 

Let me know if you experience and "missed calls" on LTE.

 

Because Public Mobile has only LTE but NOT VoLTE, sometimes you will NOT be notified of an incoming call (the phone won't ring, you won't see a "missed call" notification and you won't know that someone tried to call you UNLESS a voice mail was left). The solution is for Public Mobile is to enable VoLTE but until they do that (and they say they have no plans to do that), the solution is to turn off LTE and use only 3G.

 

On an iPhone, click "Settings" "Cellular" "Cellular Data Options" and turn OFF "Enable LTE".

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/3g-4g-voice-calls-lte-network-implementation-richie-sam-oommen/

 

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