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Re: Phone advice


@kb_mv wrote:
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@darlicious Anytime i have ordered online from the states and taxes/duties were not collected at time of purchase and the item was shipped USPS / Canadapost,  Canada customs (depending on the value) sends a "bill" with Canada Post and they collect it upon delivery adding a $5 service charge. Careful if it's sent by some couriers as you may get a bill from them AFTER delivery for brokerage fees. I always try and get stuff shipped USPS.


@kb_mv While not many people want to pay sales tax, it is required to be paid. Canda Post hasn't charged only $5 for some time. The Canada.Post handling fee for collectimg and submitting the sales tax is now $9.95.

 

As for brokerage fees, it's the fact that there is a fee, but rather the ridiculous amount of the fee.  When shipping is done by carrirers such as UPS or Fedex, there are extemely high fees if ground shipping services were used.  The fees are usually much more reasonable with air shipping service options (and is a flat rate), but the shipping cost will be much higher.

 

These fees are an important factor when considering importing such a cell phone purchase.

Mayor / Maire

Re: Phone advice


@computergeek541 wrote:

@kb_mv While not many people want to pay sales tax, it is required to be paid. Canda Post hasn't charged only $5 for some.time. The Canada.Post handling fee for collectimg and submitting the sales tax is now $9.95.

@computergeek541 I understand the process. Most things of value that go through Canada customs to Canada post come with a bill upon delivery to cover the tax plus whatever Canada Post's surcharge may be. If the item has been released by Canada customs with no bill, I have never remitted taxes on my own. I have done it that way for the better part of 20 years of online ordering.

 

I agree with your assessment of Fedex/UPS. I avoid them anytime I can.

Re: Phone advice


@kb_mv wrote:

@computergeek541 wrote:

@kb_mv While not many people want to pay sales tax, it is required to be paid. Canda Post hasn't charged only $5 for some.time. The Canada.Post handling fee for collectimg and submitting the sales tax is now $9.95.

@computergeek541 I understand the process. Most things of value that go through Canada customs to Canada post come with a bill upon delivery to cover the tax plus whatever Canada Post's surcharge may be. If the item has been released by Canada customs with no bill, I have never remitted taxes on my own. I have done it that way for the better part of 20 years of online ordering.

 

I agree with your assessment of Fedex/UPS. I avoid them anytime I can.


@kb_mv 

I don't want to turn this thread into discussion about some ways to get aroind tax that aren't legal, but Canada Post does "forget" to collect sales tax if CBSA officer decides not to issue the paperwork to collect the taxes or if they clear a bunch of packages without examing the value of them. In the case of B&H Photo, many customers would probably choose to pay Canadian sales taxes ahead of time to avoid surprises.

Mayor / Maire

Re: Phone advice

@computergeek541 @kb_mv 

So let me put it this way.....what would you two do if you were making this purchase? Pay the $18.85 tax and duties on a  US$119 purchase or take your chances? B&H says they ship international using DHL and i get it shipped to my local CPO.

 

or would I be better off getting the Moto E from LD for $119 (cdn)+taxes? 

 

https://www.londondrugs.com/telus-motorola-moto-e-prepaid-phone---midnight-blue/L1143400.html

 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1595563-REG/moto_pafv0001us_moto_g7_plus_64gb.html/add-on-sav...

 

Mayor / Maire

Re: Phone advice

Sounds like....

 

@computergeek541   pay ahead

 

@kb_mv  pay later

 

Tie breaker? Anyone want to weigh in?

Re: Phone advice


@darlicious wrote:

@computergeek541 @kb_mv 

So let me put it this way.....what would you two do if you were making this purchase? Pay the $18.85 tax and duties on a  US$119 purchase or take your chances? B&H says they ship international using DHL and i get it shipped to my local CPO.

 


@darlicious Absolutely pay now because shipping is by DHL, regardless of if Canada Post is doing the final delivery.

 

I would pay the tax ahead of time. Here's why: Delivery by Canada Post doesn't necessarily mean that Canada Post is collecting the tax at the time of delivery. DHL may very well be submitting the taxes for you to the CRA and performing the cross border package clearance before giving the package to Canada Post. If that's the way DHL does it, I promise that's DHL's brokerage fee will be astromomical. You'll get a bill.

 

Pretty much I am saying that DHL is less likely to "forget". They are a for profit company and want the fees.

Mayor / Maire

Re: Phone advice


@computergeek541 wrote:

@darlicious Absolutely pay now because shipping is by DHL, regardless of if Canada Post is doing the final delivery.

 

I would pay the tax ahead of time. Here's why: Delivery by Canada Post doesn't necessarily mean that Canada Post is collecting the tax at the time of delivery. DHL may very well be submitting the taxes for you to the CRA and performing the cross border package clearance before giving the package to Canada Post. If that's the way DHL does it, I promise that's DHL's brokerage fee will be astromomical. You'll get a bill.

 

Pretty much I am saying that DHL is less likely to "forget". They are a for profit company and want the fees.


@computergeek541 , @darlicious I received a bill about a month after DHL delivered something for me. It was for brokerage fees and it was indeed ridiculous. If you (me/anyone) pay ahead or pay after, I recommend USPS / Canada post. But that's just me.

Oracle

Re: Phone advice


@darlicious wrote:

@will13am wrote:

@Ultrahub wrote:

Thanks will13am.

No issues coming across the border? Any duties charged?


B&H does a lot of business in Canada.  Their shipping process across the border is super trouble free.  For $1USD service charge, they will remit the HST to the Canadian government on your behalf so the item crosses the border seamlessly.  During checkout, you can opt to not have them process the taxes in which case you can do the paperwork to get the item through customs and pay taxes yourself.  Electronics do not have duty.  


@will13am 

Are you recommending doing this yourself and remitting the taxes later? If so what does this entail?  Seroiusly considering the Moto G plus for US$119 today......


Absolutely not!  I mentioned the option for completeness because it is available to customers if they so choose.  The hassle of doing your own paperwork and paying the taxes owed to clear the item would far outweigh the nominal cost of $1USD.  Personally, I don't even know where the phone would be held for customers to go to pay up and clear customs.  

Mayor / Maire

Re: Phone advice

@will13am 

That's what i thought....i was still charged duty on the purchase. Also interesting that the duty and taxes are charged in US $. Is that normal?

 

 I was initially looking around for a deal for the bf ( moto E) but once I read up about this model and the camera im making this my new phone and my A3 will be my backup/$10 account line. My only disappointment is its not the dual sim version. From what i can tell its a great price for that model.

Oracle

Re: Phone advice


@kb_mv wrote:

@darlicious wrote:

@will13am wrote:

@Ultrahub wrote:

Thanks will13am.

No issues coming across the border? Any duties charged?


B&H does a lot of business in Canada.  Their shipping process across the border is super trouble free.  For $1USD service charge, they will remit the HST to the Canadian government on your behalf so the item crosses the border seamlessly.  During checkout, you can opt to not have them process the taxes in which case you can do the paperwork to get the item through customs and pay taxes yourself.  Electronics do not have duty.  


@will13am 

Are you recommending doing this yourself and remitting the taxes later? If so what does this entail?  Seroiusly considering the Moto G plus for US$119 today......


@darlicious Anytime i have ordered online from the states and taxes/duties were not collected at time of purchase and the item was shipped USPS / Canadapost,  Canada customs (depending on the value) sends a "bill" with Canada Post and they collect it upon delivery adding a $5 service charge. Careful if it's sent by some couriers as you may get a bill from them AFTER delivery for brokerage fees. I always try and get stuff shipped USPS.


There are no duties for electronics coming into Canada.  If you add the item to the cart, go to cart and then select country and province, you will see a single entry that they call duties and taxes.  B&H ships all over the world, not just to Canada and US.  So they use a generic title for the charges.  Click on the ? and a pop up shows the breakdown of charges, PST, GST and so called carrier charge which is the $1 service fee for processing the taxes.  Since B&H will do the paperwork for the taxes, their shipper will have the necessary paperwork to clear the item across the border seamlessly.  The shipment will arrive at the door with no surprise fees, guaranteed.  

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