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softech
Mayor / Maire

Re: If i buy a new unlocked phone that is fully paid can I just put my public mobile sim card in it?

@Pawprints1986   the devicecheck is a reliable site.

 

the data in the the "stolen" database in fact are added by mobile providers

 

There are two ways that phones end up on the blacklist.

  1. If a device is reported lost or stolen.
  2. If the owner of the phone fails to pay off any device financing.

 

  All participating provider will not let devices on this blacklist to use their network.

esjliv
Mayor / Maire

Re: If i buy a new unlocked phone that is fully paid can I just put my public mobile sim card in it?

@Pawprints1986 ,

 

All i can say for sure is "Buyer Beware" when buying a second-hand device from a source that will not backup/guarantee the device.

 

Your IMEI may not be on the Blacklisted site today, but if someone listed it their tomorrow or in the future, your kinda hooped.

darlicious
Mayor / Maire

Re: If i buy a new unlocked phone that is fully paid can I just put my public mobile sim card in it?

@softech 

One more reason and often the one that gets a phone blacklisted a year or more after its sale to the innocent party. Insurance claims....device insurance claims can often be drawn out and depending if a device gets assessed and repaired or written off for a depreciated value or discovered to be a fraudulent claim it can take two years for the device to finally be blacklisted.

Korth
Mayor / Maire

Re: If i buy a new unlocked phone that is fully paid can I just put my public mobile sim card in it?

Unlocked phones are not carrier-locked, they'll work on any network, including Public Mobile (Telus).

 

Pretty much any phone meant for sale in Canada (or USA) over the last half decade is assured compatibility any of the major Canadian cellular networks. Phones using legacy radio or phones intended for foreign regions/markets typically won't work (although "global" phones often support CA/US). All compatible phones will support basic talk/text/data/etc, but not all compatible phones support all the latest-generation protocols and bands and frequencies and features, but this isn't an issue on Public Mobile (which throttles LTE data to "3G Speed" and which doesn't support stuff like VoLTE, etc).

 

Whether or not the phone is paid for isn't relevant. Unless the previous owner has secured or locked it in some way which prevents or limits usefulness to the current owner. Yes, they could get the phone blacklisted (registered as lost/stolen/etc) which would basically make the phone a worthless brick. Or they have installed modded firmware/software of the variety you don't want.

 

Buyer beware. If it's an option, plug your SIM card into the new/used Pixel to confirm compatibility before walking away from the deal. And (if you're unafraid of voiding the warranty which doesn't apply to you) then consider installing a clean copy of GrapheneOS.

Pawprints1986
Town Hero / Héro de la Ville

Re: If i buy a new unlocked phone that is fully paid can I just put my public mobile sim card in it?

Hmm so if the phone is blacklisted, but the buyer knows how to install fresh software on it, is it still bricked? Is that imei "hard wired" no matter which OS version? 🤔 I know for Samsung firmware anyway, that the xac version isn't carrier specific but there's others that are, all of the same actual OS (like Oreo). So in theory it's possible a bricked blacklisted telus phone could become a working non carrier specific but Canadian phone... If I'm thinking of it correctly that is

 

Not looking to do anything criminal lol, just totally wondering how this all works. Had no idea it was a thing until today !

darlicious
Mayor / Maire

Re: If i buy a new unlocked phone that is fully paid can I just put my public mobile sim card in it?

@Pawprints1986 

Changing a phone's IMEI is very criminal. A blacklisted phone though is only blacklisted in that country's provider networks.

softech
Mayor / Maire

Re: If i buy a new unlocked phone that is fully paid can I just put my public mobile sim card in it?


You are right, IMEI could be changed if you have the right equipment.. but of course, this is not legal.  

 

 

Pawprints1986
Town Hero / Héro de la Ville

Re: If i buy a new unlocked phone that is fully paid can I just put my public mobile sim card in it?

But imei doesn't change while flashing software then it sounds like...all very interesting to learn! I had no idea that they were quite that intricate. Like, operation wise. I know there's definitely lots of physical bits inside lol

 

Honestly didn't know if I had accidentally broken the law with my own device just from wanting root access which means flashing the OS on your own to update it without losing root. If flashing also changed imei I would have and not even known! Crazy... 

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