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Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Re: Doogee S90C Grayed out APN

Guess what,not all of us are tech savvy or want to attempt to brick a new phone.But ,I did try to root the phone twice with two different programs and they both failed to root it.So, I quit while I was ahead and looked for an alternative.With help from the mods and those who replied to this post it worked.Maybe a temporary patch who knows.I also contacted Doogee support and after a few emails they finally replied.They are supposedly rewriting some of the software to attempt to repair this problem

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Doogee S90C Grayed out APN


@hawkgt wrote:

Bought a Freedom card last night and was sent out today.Should be here tomorrow or the next day..Got a suggestion from a Mod today about another hack using the Freedom Card.Will let you know how it works out


So you might be familiar with some other forums where the thread OP in effect closes the thread using some function. The Accept as solution has other purposes in this forum. Closing the thread is not it. As evidenced by posts still coming in.

I'd like to suggest you click the three dots in the upper right of your post that I quoted and deselect it as the solution. Then go back to the first reply from gpixel4 and give that post the solution.

Giving oneself the solution is kinda frowned up on around here fyi.

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Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Re: Doogee S90C Grayed out APN

So you might be familiar with some other forums where the thread OP in effect closes the thread using some function. The Accept as solution has other purposes in this forum. Closing the thread is not it. As evidenced by posts still coming in.

I'd like to suggest you click the three dots in the upper right of your post that I quoted and deselect it as the solution. Then go back to the first reply from gpixel4 and give that post the solution.

Giving oneself the solution is kinda frowned up on around here fyi.

 

That was not my intent to take credit for a solution that I did not create.

I thought that clicking on accept as a solution would include the entire thread,not one post.

Thanks for setting me straight

 
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Mayor / Maire

Re: Doogee S90C Grayed out APN

@hawkgt 

 

If you choose to root this device then I think Magisk is your best and easiest option.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk

 

You can (re)install the stock ROM which came with your device.

https://www.getdroidtips.com/stock-rom-doogee-s90-firmware/

 

You can install the "cloned" ROM which is root-modded for your device.

https://unofficialtwrp.com/unofficial-twrp-3-3-1-root-doogee-s90/

 

You can install the LineageOS ROM which "unofficially" updates your device to rooted AOSP10.

https://www.getdroidtips.com/lineage-os-17-1-doogee-s90c-android-10/

 

All of these will permanently flag the bootloader firmware "out of warranty". And break the "Google Lock" - google updates, some google services, google play store, and google pay will no longer work - so they set the device on a one-way path to obtaining software apps/updates through APK sideloads (ie: you download them onto a PC and install onto the device from there).

You may or may not have already done all this with your failed root attempts. Hard to say without knowing how far the failed installs progressed.

 

LineageOS replaces the google-based components with other root trust authorities which are unaligned with google - most of the google apps and services are replaced with equivalent options. The "stock" ROM simply deactivates these things, the "clone" ROM simply removes them.

 

It seems like a lot of "tech savvy" information but if you spend a little time reading and following links/instructions then it's really quite easy.

 

The next best option is to basically choose a different phone on Public Mobile or to take your phone to another operator (which does push APNs). Or to wait indefinitely (without mobile data) for PM to get around to fixing this problem they've already left unfixed for years.

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Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Re: Doogee S90C Grayed out APN

Ok,I'll keep this in mind.I will read the links that you have provided and decide if it is beneficial in my case as I basically use the phone to text,call family and friends and the occasional search.I guess by rooting I can upgrade the android version and that should allow me to get a longer life span out of the phone.i would think that i would need some sort of anti virus apps?Correct?

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Doogee S90C Grayed out APN

 @hawkgt : That was a thing I wasn't sure I wanted to be removed from. That it would be much more hands-on and manual. Or that some other security things don't work. ie. iirc (and Korth would know more) you can't use Google Pay on a rooted device. Well I like Google Pay.

So I'm still hesitant to root and ROM.

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Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Re: Doogee S90C Grayed out APN

Basically how I feel about it,but I may play with that old Kyocera and give it a try.Who knows,I might actually learn something

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Doogee S90C Grayed out APN


@hawkgt wrote:

Basically how I feel about it,but I may play with that old Kyocera and give it a try.Who knows,I might actually learn something


The technical side of me is intrigued with the idea of being free of the bonds of a manufacturer. But the brick it risk side keeps winning.

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Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Re: Doogee S90C Grayed out APN

With that old phone it wouldn't be an issue.My young dog got a hold of the sim tray when I dropped it and I can't find a replacement,so the phone is basically bricked now.I don't think I can hurt it much more

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Mayor / Maire

Re: Doogee S90C Grayed out APN

Google installed itself as the "trusted" authority in device firmware. (Just like Apple and Samsung do with their devices.)

 

They allow rooting and modding - because they technically can't really stop it anyhow, because they legally can't stop it in some places, and because they would receive endlessly costly bad press for bulletproofing anti-consumer "black box" functions into their products.

 

But once you deviate from Google's path you have "broken the trust" and struck out on your own. Many google apps/services actually will still run fine on a rooted phone, after a little tinkering anyhow, but the critical google trust authority stuff will be denied. They've lost control over the device, they can't guarantee that it's legit anymore, so they slammed the door against spoofing attacks and fake trust certifications and other digital frauds.

 

It turns out that there's other internet root trust authorities - built into the topmost w3 and dns layers - which are even more trustworthy and reputable than google (they are in fact the ones preferred by banks, etc). But these authorities are interested in running the internet, not in selling phone apps or babysitting online transactions or milking profits, so they don't run playstores and shopping carts and discrete bottom-scraping user telemetry. AOSP builds like GrapheneOS and LineageOS overwrite google's trust dependencies with these other authorities. People running these builds can't use google play store and google pay.

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