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Brian26
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

My invoice indicates I was chasrged 14% HST in March but I was charged 15% on my visa. How does this get fixed?

 

edited by computergeek541:  changed the category label (unrelated to the phones and hardware category)

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hi @Seashore So, the next thing you have to do is to make a complaint to CRA

and if you want to save some tax, you can buy voucher from stores in a province with lower tax rate.  The voucher will be charged at the store and use the tax rate where the store is located.  You can then load the voucher using *611 or via My Account or PM app and PM won't charge tax since the voucher already taxed during purchase 

Seashore
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

I thought I'd share an update on my CCTS complaint.  Turns out that Public Mobile is following the CRA guidelines from 2006 (presumably never updated) regarding how to determine taxes for cellular service. The CRA document is here., the verbiage in question is the bottom of page 2. 

So my beef is actually with my previous cell provider which issued me the number in Nova Scotia, not informing me that it was a PEI exchange (both provinces share the 902 area code).  That happened outside of the 12 month window for CCTS complaints and wouldn't resolve anything anyway.

I don't want to change my number and go thru the hassle of updating all my contacts, 2FA/MFA, etc., so I will just have to eat the 1% tax difference. I suspect the OP (@Brian26) is in the same situation. 

What really needs to happen, IMHO, is the 20 year old CRA guidelines need to be updated to reflect other legislative changes allowing phone number porting, etc.  

There are systematic ways for prepaid cellular providers to verify residential addresses (e.g. matching them to the billing address of the credit card).  The US Government has a process for its citizens living abroad to verify their identity and residential address when renewing their passport out-of-country, so surely cell phone companies can figure something out.

Seashore
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

So far, Public Mobile has offered nothing, repeatedly saying the matter is resolved (essentially saying there is/was no issue),  so I have filed a complaint with the CCTS.


@Seashore wrote:

In the day and age of phone number porting, they should no longer be charging tax based on the phone number, but on the residential billing address.  Do better Public Mobile.


I do see your point about this, but Public Mobile doesn't have any way to double check the address that the customer provides.  As such, billing based on the phone number is really the only feasible option.  As for the discrepancy between the province and your phone number, this is something that Public Mobile can and should correct and you really should have been provided the difference back.

Seashore
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

The CS_Agent (Sorin_B) sent me a screenshot from some system on their end, the text version (thanks to AI) is below.  My number is on this list. 

Regardless, this reveals a flaw in PM's system, which I intend to escalate to the appropriate provincial and federal taxation departments.  They invoice me at one amount, charge me another. 

In the day and age of phone number porting, they should no longer be charging tax based on the phone number, but on the residential billing address.  Do better Public Mobile.

Prince Edward Island

Alberton (782) -212 318 (902) -206 214 231 853 856 960

Bedeque (902) -887

Borden-Carleton (782)-319 (902)-437 729 855

Cardigan (902) -see Three Rivers

Charlottetown (782)-317 355 377 550 553 556 557 772 843 844 846 979 (902) -200 201 213 218 239 288 314 316 330 355 367 368 370 388 393 394 409 519 556 557 566 569 607 620 626 628 629 781 812 892 894 916 940 948 978

Cornwall (902) -see Charlottetown

Covehead (782) -320 (902)-672

Crapaud (902)-658 730

Eldon (782) -483 (902) -659

Georgetown (902) - see Three Rivers

Hunter River (782) -244 323 (902) -621 734 964

Kensington (782)-325 (902)-836

Montague (902) - see Three Rivers

Morell-St. Peters (902)-961

Mount Stewart (902) -676

Murray River (782) -327 (902)-741 962

New Haven (782)-328 486 (902)-675

New London (782)-462 (902)-886

O'Leary (782) -329 (902) -726 807 859

Resort Municipality (902) - see Rusticoville

Rusticoville (782)-330 (902)-963

Souris (782) -331 (902)-208 215 327 687 743

Stratford (902) - see Charlottetown

Summerside (782) - 202 241 324 332 541 542 543 544 (902) - 303 315 358 374 381 432 436 438 439 598 724 888 918 954

Three Rivers, Prince Edward Island contains multiple telephone rate centers:

Cardigan (902) -583

@Seashore 

what is the next 3 digits you have after the area code?  would like to confirm what city the number is "located" in based on that 3 digits

 

Seashore
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

<edited to add for those who don't know, NS and PEI share the area code "902".  PM is splitting hairs and saying that my exchange (the 3 digits following the area code) is assigned to PEI, and that their tax calculation is based on "area code + exchange".  PEI's HST rate is 15%, NS recently changed their HST rate to 14%.>.

I am having the same issue and the CS agent is not resolving or escalating to someone who can/will resolve. 

Despite what the Knowledge base article says (https://www.publicmobile.ca/en/get-help/articles/how-we-calculate-tax), the CS Agent is telling me the HST calculation is based on "area code + exchange" (e.g. 902-XXX) and that my exchange is somehow assigned to PEI rather than NS. 

I was assigned the number years ago by another carrier and subsequently ported to PM.  I lived in NS when I received the number and ever since.  My billing address since getting the number has been in NS.  The monthly invoice I receive has my NS address and shows an NS tax rate.  According to their own knowledgebase, I should be charged NS tax rate, but they are refusing to do anything.  CS agent is "Sorin_B".

Brian26
Great Neighbour / Super Voisin

Thanks everyone! Im in NS with a NS number. Our GST rates just changed, but it turns out I got the date wrong that this was being implemented, so I now understand the discrepancy in the charge vs the invoice. Anyway, I appreciate your incredibly helpful responses, sorry to take up your time, you are all awesome!

BKNS27
Mayor / Maire

@Brian26 

All taxes are based on the area code of your number so depending on the provincial area code. These are the taxes you will be charged. To change it, you need to pick a new number with the area code.

slusagm
Mayor / Maire

we are just customers here and connect help with billing discrepancy.  But you can ask PM to help.  

Just open ticket with PM using the Orange Chatbot icon on the lower right. (For 2FA when login, you might need to use email to receive if you cannot receive the text on the phone.)  Type the question Submit ticket and select Contact Us to get to ticket open screen       
Or message them using this link:
    https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/notes/composepage/note-to-user-id/22437

CS_Agent will reply to your community inbox, check here:
      
https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/notes/privatenotespage      

hTideGnow
Mayor / Maire

hi @Brian26 

what province your phone number belongs to ?  is that supposed to be 14% or 15%?  The tax rate is based on the province of the area code of the phone number, not where you are

but if it should really be 14%, ask PM to check and refund you the difference

 submit a ticket with CS Agent using Chatbot here:       
            https://widget.telus.tiia.ai/publicmobile/publicmobile.html 
             Type the question "Submit ticket", Then click the following in order: "Contact Us" ,  "Other",  "Log In".  
If any issue with ticket submission, you can submit  ticket by direct message:  
          https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/notes/composepage/note-to-user-id/22437 

Remember CS_agent will reply to your Community inbox within 2 to 4 hours, please check your inbox here:
           https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/notes/privatenotespage        

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