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Re: MMS - With data turned off


@stonechucker wrote:

Simple answer.  Turn the data on, it will not count against the small data.  MMS requires data to be turned on, but will not use the included bucket of data.


@stonechucker it's not quite that simple: they're not worried about MMS data usage, they're worried about incidental data usage while data is enabled for the MMS messaging.


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Re: MMS - With data turned off


@z10user4 wrote:


Curiously, my Samsung S7 will do this on its own. I can have data turned off. Send an MMS and watch the little LTE icon come on for a moment and the MMS has sent. It doesn't grab the data buffer either.

@z10user4 oh?  Interesting.  I wonder if other phones can do that as well.  

 

@shafarrah what kind of phone is your wife using?  That would help us suggest options for controlling data usage.


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Re: MMS - With data turned off


@srlawren wrote:

@z10user4 wrote:


Curiously, my Samsung S7 will do this on its own. I can have data turned off. Send an MMS and watch the little LTE icon come on for a moment and the MMS has sent. It doesn't grab the data buffer either.

@z10user4 oh?  Interesting.  I wonder if other phones can do that as well.  

 

@shafarrah what kind of phone is your wife using?  That would help us suggest options for controlling data usage.


@srlawren , it’s the daughters phone with the issue.  Wife’s device is with Bell, no data bucket, but does send MMS.

Re: MMS - With data turned off


@GR wrote:

@shafarrah  with bell you can put a data block and pay 2$ a month to be able to use mms!  What kind of phone does your daughter have?


Unfortunately, Public Mobile does not offer this.

Re: MMS - With data turned off


@shafarrah wrote:

Am on the $15 plan for my kid. She keeps the data off to make sure that she only uses the 250mb in case of an emergency.

 

We wanted to setup a group sms chat - myself, spouse and kid. It's not working and I think it has to do with mobile data and APN maybe.

 

Can anyone shed some light on how to get it to work with data turned off?

 

Is MMS included in the unlimited text package (can you send pics, etc)? 

 

Thanks!


The one way that I can think of is this: delete the Public Mobile main APN if your device allows you or even just deberately break if with a mispelling so you easily change it back.

 

Then create a new APN.

 

Name: Can be anything

 

APN:  aliasredirect.net/proxy/mb/mmsc

 

MMSC:  http://aliasredirect.net/proxy/mb/mmsc

 

MMS Proxy: mmscproxy.mobility.ca

 

MMS Port: 8799

 

APN type: mms

 

 

I have not checked if this works as my phone does not let me remove then preset APN.

 

 

 

Good Citizen / Bon Citoyen

Re: MMS - With data turned off

Just to add some details.

 

My wife has a Samsung S7. No data. Voice and text plan only. Data is still turned off though on her phone and MMS works.

 

Daughter has a Moto G6. $15 plan on PM. I want to keep data OFF and still be able to use MMS. Why is this not possible??

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Re: MMS - With data turned off


@shafarrah wrote:

Just to add some details.

 

My wife has a Samsung S7. No data. Voice and text plan only. Data is still turned off though on her phone and MMS works.

 

Daughter has a Moto G6. $15 plan on PM. I want to keep data OFF and still be able to use MMS. Why is this not possible??


@shafarrah you would have to ask Motorola why it's not possible.  I'm really surprised to hear this works on an S7, but both you and @z10user4 have said it does so I guess that's true.  Samsung must have done something proprietary, but on almost any other device I've heard of, you have to have your mobile data turned on in order to send or receive MMS messages.  


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Re: MMS - With data turned off


@srlawren wrote:

@shafarrah wrote:

Just to add some details.

 

My wife has a Samsung S7. No data. Voice and text plan only. Data is still turned off though on her phone and MMS works.

 

Daughter has a Moto G6. $15 plan on PM. I want to keep data OFF and still be able to use MMS. Why is this not possible??


@shafarrah you would have to ask Motorola why it's not possible.  I'm really surprised to hear this works on an S7, but both you and @z10user4 have said it does so I guess that's true.  Samsung must have done something proprietary, but on almost any other device I've heard of, you have to have your mobile data turned on in order to send or receive MMS messages.  


 @srlawren 

I think there was another phone mentioned by maybe @Jb456 maybe a Huawei.

Certainly my old BB OS10 needed data on.

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Re: MMS - With data turned off


@z10user4 wrote:

@srlawren wrote:

@shafarrah wrote:

Just to add some details.

 

My wife has a Samsung S7. No data. Voice and text plan only. Data is still turned off though on her phone and MMS works.

 

Daughter has a Moto G6. $15 plan on PM. I want to keep data OFF and still be able to use MMS. Why is this not possible??


@shafarrah you would have to ask Motorola why it's not possible.  I'm really surprised to hear this works on an S7, but both you and @z10user4 have said it does so I guess that's true.  Samsung must have done something proprietary, but on almost any other device I've heard of, you have to have your mobile data turned on in order to send or receive MMS messages.  


 @srlawren 

I think there was another phone mentioned by maybe @Jb456 maybe a Huawei.

Certainly my old BB OS10 needed data on.


Yes it was me.

 

My old phone was a Honor 6x.(Don't know if where it came from makes a difference but I bought it in USA at bestbuy it came unlocked) I never turned data on for like a year. Even after I changed my $90 plan to PM $25 plan (CA calls,text,1gb data) I still never turned data on.

 

Strictly wifi.

 

I was able to send & receive MMS, no problem.

 

Now I have a Huawei P20 and a P20 pro. Both are unable to do MMS unless data is turned on.

 

I leave data off. If someone sends me a picture or gif I get a text saying "picture message. Click to download".  

 

If I click to download the little circle spins for a bit then times out and nothing happens.

 

So I have to turn data on for a second and pic/gif comes in right away.

 

Same if I want to send a pic. I have to turn data on for second till message is sent. If I try sending with data off I just get the red notification says "failed to send".

 

Never had that happen on Honor 6x... actually just put my sim back in the 6x and was able to send a picture with data and wifi OFF!.

 

Would be nice to have it back but I'm accustomed to tiny step I need to do now when it comes to MMS.

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Re: MMS - With data turned off


@srlawren wrote:

@z10user4 wrote:


Curiously, my Samsung S7 will do this on its own. I can have data turned off. Send an MMS and watch the little LTE icon come on for a moment and the MMS has sent. It doesn't grab the data buffer either.

@z10user4 oh?  Interesting.  I wonder if other phones can do that as well.  

 

@shafarrah what kind of phone is your wife using?  That would help us suggest options for controlling data usage.


My S8+ doesn't do this. I have to manually toggle data on for MMS. Maybe there is a setting I can find if I dig deep enough. Gave me something to do for the evening I guess...