topic Re: New Plans Explained in Get Support

New Plans Explained

kav2001c — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 19:22:58 GMT

Lots of hate on new plans, not entirely sure why, but here are the comparisons to Chatr

AUTOPAY PLANS

Chatr $40, 2GB with autopay, Canada Wide Talk

Public $45 with autopay, 6GB, Canada Wide Talk

$5 extra for triple the data, better voice mail, no zones

Chatr $45, 4GB with autopay, Canada Wide Talk

Public $45 with autopay, 6GB Canada Wide Talk

Same price but more data, better voice mail, no zones

Chatr $50, 6GB with autopay, US Talk

Public $50 with autopay, 6GB, US Talk

Same price & data, better voice mail, no zones

NON AUTOPAY PLANS

Chatr $40, 1GB, Canada Wide Talk

Public $47, 6GB, Canada Wide Talk

$7 extra for 6X the data, better voice mail, no zones. No closer comparison since Public does not offer lower data buckets

Chatr $45, 2GB, Canada Wide Talk

Public $47, 6GB, Canada Wide Talk
$2 extra for triple the data, better voice mail, no zones. No closer comparison since Public does not offer lower data buckets

Chatr $50, 4GB, US Talk

Public $52, 6GB, US Talk

$2 extra for 2 more GB, better voice mail, no zones. No closer comparison since Public does not offer lower data buckets

At EVERY SINGLE PRICE POINT Public Mobile has better value than Chatr, with or without autopay enrolement

The autopay difference on Chatr gives more full speed (3G) data, without it they have very limited use. Autopay on Public of course gives cheaper rates.

The only even remotely compelling reason to sign up with Chatr is if you are happy with 2G data service (as Chatr offers unlimited in zone data once 3G has been consumed)

*EDIT - Chatr does have 6 month account expiry vs Public 3 month account expiry, It was pointed out to me that people who infrequently need a prepay phone could take advantage of that or while travelling

*EDIT2 - Added non-autopay accounts for people who wanted to compare

So what exactly do you all hate on so badly?

*edit, adding in Koodo/Fido/Virgin comparisons for LTE

Koodo/Virgin $55, 1GB, Canada Wide Talk (limited to 500 mins)

Public $53, 1GB, Canada Wide Talk

Note the 2GB/4GB plans are cheaper on Koodo/Virgin/Fido as all are running bonus data promo right now

Re: New Plans Explained

Raven_Jet — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 14:20:37 GMT

Looks good to me.

Re: New Plans Explained

Rockdaddy22 — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 14:21:05 GMT

I guess even being compared to Chatr is the problem. I personally felt, we were in a different class than Chatr. But now it's our direct competition. I was having delusions of grandeur lol We're third tier for life 🙂

Re: New Plans Explained

kav2001c — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 14:23:07 GMT

@Rockdaddy22 I think we always were 3rd line

Bell - Telus - Rogers

Virgin - Koodo - Fido

Solo - Public - Chatr

We are the production line, no fame, no glory

Re: New Plans Explained

Rockdaddy22 — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 14:23:49 GMT

I know 😢

Re: New Plans Explained

kav2001c — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 14:24:12 GMT

Also note for cost sensitive clients there also is the option for Provincial talk plans but I compared Canada & USA so equal to what Chatr has

Re: New Plans Explained

WearySky — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 14:38:33 GMT

I don't have any issue with the 3G plans - for folks that want 3G data, by all means have at it. My issue is with the increase in price for the LTE plans.

Re: New Plans Explained

MEU_21 — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 14:42:27 GMT

Patently False Statements. I don’t know why you compare the 2GB plan to 6GB plan, and 4GB plan to 6GB plan. I understand you look at price point, but data needs should be dictating your analysis. Comparing apples-to apples as much as possible, see these examples for Canada wide and global text plans:

6GB @3G, with AutoPay (SAME PRICE)

Chatr:$50/m (includes US talk)

PM: $50/m (with US talk on 90 Day plan)

4GB @3G, with AutoPay (Chatr MUCH Cheaper)

Chatr:$45/m

PM: $60/m (on 30 Day plan), you could get the 90 Day plan with 6GB for the same $45/m, but commit $135 upfront.

2GB @3G, with AutoPay (Chatr MUCH Cheaper)

Chatr: $40/m

PM: $55/m (on 30 Day plan),

1GB @3G (Chatr MUCH Cheaper)

Chatr: $40/m , no AutoPay

PM: $52/m, no AutoPay (on 30 Day plan)

Advantages for PM: no Zone, but stuck in one province

Advantages for Chatr: Zones but major Canadian cities are within zone, good long distance calling list.

Re: New Plans Explained

ShawnC13 — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 14:47:35 GMT

@kav2001c, I agree with @Rockdaddy22, when I joined I know only 9 months I felt PM was competing against the Big 3 and shaking up the Telecom industry. Now I think PM was to successful in their campaign against the Big 3 and they didn't like losing customers so now we compete against Chatr. I switched to PM because I was getting Big 3 Data speeds and quantities at HUGE discount prices. Chatr level of cellular providing did not interest me then and does not now. I am glad I have my plan I do but I wouldn't have swithced to get Chatr type services.

Re: New Plans Explained

kav2001c — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 14:57:17 GMT

@MEU_21 although this is not really relevant since it never changed but; so essentially your issue with Public Mobile has nothing to do with the plans. It has to do with the fact you commit to a 90 day term upfront?

Public has promoted 90 day promo plans since the BETA plan days (over 2 years ago)

You need to go back before Telus takeover if you only wanted 30 day packages

Actually and if you look at the oldest plan charts, they even list 180 day plans which never made it to the new clients

My question back to you is if the 90 day term bothered you, *WHY* sign up in first place?

This is a very long term issue, not related to new plans at all

Re: New Plans Explained

MEU_21 — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 15:10:33 GMT

90 Day plans don't bother me, although it may bother others - I didn't even raise a fuss about the 90 Day plans. However, misleading comparisons and a blanket statement that PM has better plans at every price category, does bother me.

As I posted orginially, I understand that the comparison was based on price point, but with that logic, I could just compare the 18GB 3G plan and say that PM is the best because noone else offers it.

Anyways, I ditched Chatr in the fall because my needs changed.

Re: New Plans Explained

kav2001c — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 15:12:34 GMT

@MEU_21 for people that use low speed data the 18GB plan is quite amazine

I suspect that one is positioned more against the Freedom Mobile subscribers though

After Freedom screwed old clients with LTE plans I am sure many would jump at a good deal

Re: New Plans Explained

mimmo — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:12:13 GMT

I thought i heard solo is being folded into bell or virgin

Bell - Telus - Rogers
Virgin - Koodo - Fido
Solo - Public - Chatr

We are the production line, no fame, no glory

Re: New Plans Explained

Rockdaddy22 — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:07:11 GMT

Some people don't even get autopay credits. I personally think they should be removed from any comparisons. Or at least have a separate comparison without it included.

Re: New Plans Explained

mimmo — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:09:34 GMT

dont forget Chatr offers $80 in autopay credits for the first 8 months and also you should compare non promo 3g data pricing becasue once teh promo is gone the numbers change.

Re: New Plans Explained

Rockdaddy22 — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:15:13 GMT

I was also going to mention the promo thing, good point.

These prices/promos are so fluid, it'll be a wait and see for many. Definitely interesting/maybe scary times.

Re: New Plans Explained

WearySky — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:18:55 GMT

@mimmo wrote:

I thought i heard solo is being folded into bell or virgin

Solo prepaid is being folded into Bell prepaid: https://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Mobility-promotions/Solo-Migration

As far as I know post-paid are still staying as Solo (for now). But they haven't been activating new lines since way back in 2012.

Edit: I stand corrected - *all* customers are being migrated over to Bell effective July 31st: http://mobilesyrup.com/2017/06/29/solo-mobile-migrates-customers-bell-starting-july-31st/

Edit again: or maybe not. That mobilesyrup story is just referencing the same Bell link I posted previously.

Re: New Plans Explained

Rockdaddy22 — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:19:28 GMT

Nice quick correction 🙂 Great info here guys.

Re: New Plans Explained

pakmode — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:28:21 GMT

Yeah Solo is done like dinner.

Re: New Plans Explained

Rockdaddy22 — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:29:23 GMT

I'm hungry now, and tired 😴