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Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

hassanroble — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 06:43:16 GMT

So when ever PM sim is inserted to my galaxy s21 device, it Changes the CSC from its Samsung XAC to PMB which is the public mobile as it should. The problem is, since public mobile dont offer any 5G or Volte or even Wifi Calling, Those feature are automatically disabled and disappear from the device completely(not grayed out) which makes the whole reason of buying high-end phone pointless. i wonder if there is a way to overcome this monopoly from the carriers limiting your devices options if they haven't collected cash from it in the first place?

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

Quigley — Fri, 09 Apr 2021 19:03:04 GMT

Why would anyone with a higher end phone use PM in the first place? Since you know you can't use it to it's fullest potential. Just saying 😅

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Apr 2021 19:07:53 GMT

@Quigley : Why would anybody buy a Ferrari when they can only use its full potential on a track?

@hassanroble : This is a topic I had been interested in with my UAE A31 phone. So what happens when you put in a different SIM?

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

WoozyPolarBear — Fri, 09 Apr 2021 19:11:02 GMT

@Quigley wrote:
Why would anyone with a higher end phone use PM in the first place? Since you know you can't use it to it's fullest potential. Just saying 😅

I use a high end phone (Note 20) on PM. Most of my use on the phone is on WIFI which means it's operating near peak. Sure, I don't get WIFI calling, but I get great signal coverage anyway so that feature doesn't really matter to me. I only use the $15/month plan (completely paid for using rewards), and pretty much only take incoming calls on my account. I use my other TELUS account using an iPhone 11 (hate the phone compared to my Note 20) as my main line for doing outgoing calls. In fact, as I type this, I should switch my Note 20 to my main TELUS line and use my hated iPhone on PM instead. But either way, flagship phones work perfectly fine on PM.

As for the CSC settings on the Samsung, as soon as I put in my TELUS SIM into that phone, all the premium features start to be available again.

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

BearFBI — Fri, 09 Apr 2021 19:27:51 GMT

@hassanroble Well this isint PM doing this. It's just the way the CSC codes work. If the carrier doesn't support the feature it won't show it.

Even if it did show it what's the difference ? It can't be used anyway.

PM's configuration code is probably the best. No bloteware or any of that junk. I'll have to switch over to it eventually. The rogers bloteware is annoying.

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

Quigley — Fri, 09 Apr 2021 19:32:00 GMT

@Anonymous Because they can, I suppose. And their not all there.

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Apr 2021 19:37:08 GMT

@Quigley wrote:
@Anonymous Because they can, I suppose. And their not all there.

I was going more towards however people want to spend their hard-earned money or ill-gotten gains or their parents money is their business.

Just because it's a third tier provider doesn't mean you can't run a Ferrari on it. Same as city streets with speed limits.

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

hassanroble — Fri, 09 Apr 2021 20:05:28 GMT

Every CSC is written differently but some companies block certain features from non Currier Specific phones in their network to force clients to buy the phones from them and thats the monopoly i am talking about here.

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

hassanroble — Fri, 09 Apr 2021 20:14:37 GMT

I haven't tried other sim on this phone so far. i am currently shopping for a better carrier who can match my high-end phone. 😊

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

TheGx — Fri, 09 Apr 2021 20:29:56 GMT

@hassanroble :I think it nothing to worry about because while your Public SIM is used your phone automatically removes features it can't use anyways but when you insert another SIM from Telus etc that has all those features your phone will automatically display those features again.

If Public ever offered those features your Public SIM card will probably automatically tell your phone to display those missing features again.

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

BearFBI — Fri, 09 Apr 2021 23:37:32 GMT

@hassanroble wrote:
Every CSC is written differently but some companies block certain features from non Currier Specific phones in their network to force clients to buy the phones from them and thats the monopoly i am talking about here.

@hassanroble And what does this have to do with Public ? Public Mobile is not doing this. PM is mostly a BYOD service. Even if you were to buy a used samsung phone from them the same features wouldn't be there because PM dosent support them.

PM is a third tier carrier. They dont offer 5G or all those fancy features.

What you got to ask yourself is if you really need them. Do you REALLY need 5G ? Do you really NEED Wi-Fi calling ? 5G is just a gimmick. In most cases its worst than 4G.

Their not locking your phone down. If you go to another carrier you can easily use those features again.

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Apr 2021 23:46:28 GMT

@hassanroble : #wts ^^ Enjoy spending a crap load more money elsewhere making use of those features.

I can do voip with TextNow...so much for VoLTE which is all that really is.

Browsing speeds are fine with the throttled LTE-Lite we have here (although my old plan gives me full 4G) so what do I care about 5G. Let alone ka-ching.

As above...bang on.

But as always with everything...it's your money.

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

RosieR — Sat, 10 Apr 2021 00:03:49 GMT

@hassanroble wrote:
I haven't tried other sim on this phone so far. i am currently shopping for a better carrier who can match my high-end phone. 😊

@hassanroble well then, good for you. Since you must have paid more $$$ to have a fancy high-end phone, you should go to a service provider that can enable you to use all the features that your device has to offer.

Namaste

RosieR

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

gpixel — Sat, 10 Apr 2021 01:40:25 GMT

they are a general user. they don't understand what they actually really need... they look for the greatest and best thing even though they don't need it

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

fujiyama — Sat, 10 Apr 2021 23:54:29 GMT

Can't speak for all brands, but I remember reading that all Samsung phones are programmed to download carrier settings the first time you insert a sim card. So it gets "locked" to the first carrier so to speak.

Try this to change it (taken from an XDA thread) :

1.install google phone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.dialer&hl=tr&gl=US

2.enter code: *#*#27262826#*#*
Select if the csc you're looking for.
3.choose the csc you want
4.install
5.sales netword code change
6.ok
7. ATTENTİON!! will be reset to factory settings!
get a backup.

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

computergeek541 — Sun, 11 Apr 2021 02:05:37 GMT

@fujiyama wrote:
Can't speak for all brands, but I remember reading that all Samsung phones are programmed to download carrier settings the first time you insert a sim card. So it gets "locked" to the first carrier so to speak.

Try this to change it (taken from an XDA thread) :
1.install google phone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.dialer&hl=tr&gl=US

2.enter code: *#*#27262826#*#*
Select if the csc you're looking for.
3.choose the csc you want
4.install
5.sales netword code change
6.ok
7. ATTENTİON!! will be reset to factory settings!
get a backup.

It's not really a mater of the phone downloading settings. The process of carrier customization actually works even without an internet connection. While many of the new Samsung devices do still perform this carrier customization process, the newest ones no longer lock to any specific carrier. it's also still possible to insert a SIM card for which the device doesn't already have the APN settings programmed for.

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

hassanroble — Sun, 11 Apr 2021 02:16:09 GMT

I understand the fact that you can switch CSC firmwares to a different carrier within the region. All i want to know is if other PM users have similar issues with PM and telus and what they have done to resolve it if they could.

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

gpixel — Sun, 11 Apr 2021 02:34:05 GMT

@hassanroble

if you're asking if I lost those features when I moved to pm then yes I did. if the carrier doesn't support the feature, it will not show up in your device. why are you looking for greyed out options? I don't see how this matters? if you move to a carrier that has volte, 5g etc. then those options will reappear. you will not be able to enable those options on a cheap carrier. why is this so hard to understand

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

hassanroble — Mon, 12 Apr 2021 11:57:03 GMT

I don't know why you think i am having a hard time understanding you. All i am doing is to shed light on the carrier CSC monopoly in our markets and how the big 3 treat customers. I am not really interested in turning this into a Twitter post or contentious arguments.

Re: Native Samsung Canada CSC XAC VS Currier Specific!

dlapointe — Mon, 19 Jul 2021 00:07:21 GMT

I totally understand, You were just supplying information to people who have questions about 5G. I have a 5 G and I was going to ask about it, but your answer fully explained everything. If you want a cheaper carrier, be prepared to lose some options. Thank you for clarifying.