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4G/LTE Data

Obice — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 12:56:13 GMT

Hi,

Is there any chance that Public Mobile will bring back 4G/LTE data for actual voice plans and not just a single data-only plan? It would be nice to have that extra speed and I'm sure the majority of us would not only be willing to pay a little extra for it but also very much appreciate having it.

I can certainly live without while on the other hand... Why live without if you can have it?

Re: 4G/LTE Data

geopublic — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 01:32:16 GMT

@Obice Public competes with Lucky and Chatr. If you want true LTE speeds you will need to move to Koodo, Virgin or Fido. Maybe when 5G becomes the norm tier3 providers will offer LTE but I wouldn't bet on it.

Re: 4G/LTE Data

popping — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 02:04:39 GMT

@Obice

It will be a while before PM will offer VoLTE for calling.

We will have VoLTE when Telus shutdown 3G transmitters and use the 3G frequecies for 4G or 5G. It will be a very long long time.

Re: 4G/LTE Data

Obice — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 02:27:37 GMT

@geopublic wrote:
@Obice Public competes with Lucky and Chatr. If you want true LTE speeds you will need to move to Koodo, Virgin or Fido. Maybe when 5G becomes the norm tier3 providers will offer LTE but I wouldn't bet on it.

I'm here because I won't pay for second or first tier carriers. Although given how all 3 tiers seem finicky I've actually been considering an archaic landline. Say what you will but wired is always better no matter what. You might suggest I go with an internet phone ("VoIP") but lets face it, if the internet goes down then no more phone and it's back to a cell phone or a landline that has battery back up and in theory a very reliable hardwired connection. As with second and third tier cellular carriers I dread even looking at the cost of them so it's more of a "I'll probably do without at this point" scenario.

They've got us in a vice, that's for sure.

Re: 4G/LTE Data

Obice — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 02:28:14 GMT

@popping wrote:
@Obice
It will be a while before PM will offer VoLTE for calling.
We will have VoLTE when Telus shutdown 3G transmitters and use the 3G frequecies for 4G or 5G. It will be a very long long time.

I'm not looking for VoLTE just LTE data.

Re: 4G/LTE Data

jor123 — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 02:33:45 GMT

@Obice wrote:
@geopublic wrote:
@Obice Public competes with Lucky and Chatr. If you want true LTE speeds you will need to move to Koodo, Virgin or Fido. Maybe when 5G becomes the norm tier3 providers will offer LTE but I wouldn't bet on it.
I'm here because I won't pay for second or first tier carriers. Although given how all 3 tiers seem finicky I've actually been considering an archaic landline. Say what you will but wired is always better no matter what. You might suggest I go with an internet phone ("VoIP") but lets face it, if the internet goes down then no more phone and it's back to a cell phone or a landline that has battery back up and in theory a very reliable hardwired connection. As with second and third tier cellular carriers I dread even looking at the cost of them so it's more of a "I'll probably do without at this point" scenario.

They've got us in a vice, that's for sure.

It's harder and harder to find a traditional landline now anyway - cable companies have their own sort of private VoIP cable phone service and as areas with copper phone lines/DSL get moved over to fibre to the home Bell is routing their home phone through their modems as well. Sure you get the "up to" 4-6 hours battery backup but beyond that not much. At the same time the central office needs power itself regardless & making a call outside your local exchange or to any other carrier introduces a bunch of other points of failure as well. The days of a town having a CO serving everyone in it and maintaining local calling when wider service goes out for whatever reason is pretty much over.

Re: 4G/LTE Data

popping — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 02:37:44 GMT

@Obice wrote:
@popping wrote:
@Obice
It will be a while before PM will offer VoLTE for calling.
We will have VoLTE when Telus shutdown 3G transmitters and use the 3G frequecies for 4G or 5G. It will be a very long long time.
I'm not looking for VoLTE just LTE data.

Even Telus shutdown 3G, we are still looking at LTE capped to 3Mbps speed. BTW, voice calls will be switched from 3G to VoLTE when 3G is shutdown.

For full LTE speed, it will depends which tier 3 provider offers full LTE speed first.

Re: 4G/LTE Data

Obice — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 03:47:02 GMT

@jor123 wrote:
@Obice wrote:
@geopublic wrote:
@Obice Public competes with Lucky and Chatr. If you want true LTE speeds you will need to move to Koodo, Virgin or Fido. Maybe when 5G becomes the norm tier3 providers will offer LTE but I wouldn't bet on it.
I'm here because I won't pay for second or first tier carriers. Although given how all 3 tiers seem finicky I've actually been considering an archaic landline. Say what you will but wired is always better no matter what. You might suggest I go with an internet phone ("VoIP") but lets face it, if the internet goes down then no more phone and it's back to a cell phone or a landline that has battery back up and in theory a very reliable hardwired connection. As with second and third tier cellular carriers I dread even looking at the cost of them so it's more of a "I'll probably do without at this point" scenario.

They've got us in a vice, that's for sure.
It's harder and harder to find a traditional landline now anyway - cable companies have their own sort of private VoIP cable phone service and as areas with copper phone lines/DSL get moved over to fibre to the home Bell is routing their home phone through their modems as well. Sure you get the "up to" 4-6 hours battery backup but beyond that not much. At the same time the central office needs power itself regardless & making a call outside your local exchange or to any other carrier introduces a bunch of other points of failure as well. The days of a town having a CO serving everyone in it and maintaining local calling when wider service goes out for whatever reason is pretty much over.

Fair enough. I'm not sure about getting a landline it is just a consideration. There are those who tell me how great it is, how reliable and how backed up it is and there are those who tell me how VoIP is just as good or better. I'm on the fence with the entire thing. Perhaps the best advice or knowledge that has been given to me is by a family member who works for Bell and explained to me the differences between a landline and a VoIP line and how VoIP is more secure (with a VPN)*. And this is just my thoughts, suppose the power goes out and I got a landline, well the battery will last X amount of time before it goes out. As it is I have my own UPS that could keep my internet and everything else I got hooked up to it on during an outage. So by turning off what I don't need and having a VoIP line... Perhaps I would have about the same reliability. (shrugs)

*He explained that a landline is really nothing more than a really, really fancy version of 2 cans and a string. On the other hand, VoIP is internet-based and can be used with a VPN ensuring much more security. It is still kinda funny or interesting to me how you hear in movies "get me a landline" implying that's it's more secure or / and reliable.

As far as LTE goes, I did not know Telus got rid of 3G or is going to be although it makes sense. Move on to 'greater' things. (greater is in quotes because I think this is purely subjective and even capitalistic).

Re: 4G/LTE Data

AE_Collector — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 04:02:04 GMT

I think the PM $15 plan is an amazing deal when coupled with Autopay giving you 1/4 Gb of data for some limited surfing if needed and the lower $13/30 days plan price. If 100 outgoing minutes may not do it you can add on outgoing minutes for only 1c a minute to cover that.

AE_Collector

Re: 4G/LTE Data

cellphoneuser1 — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 04:11:01 GMT

@Obice wrote:
Hi,

Is there any chance that Public Mobile will bring back 4G/LTE data for actual voice plans and not just a single data-only plan? It would be nice to have that extra speed and I'm sure the majority of us would not only be willing to pay a little extra for it but also very much appreciate having it.

I can certainly live without while on the other hand... Why live without if you can have it?

They don't seem to care about LTE and Public would rather have you go to Koodo.

Re: 4G/LTE Data

Obice — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 04:11:45 GMT

@AE_Collector wrote:
I think the PM $15 plan is an amazing deal when coupled with Autopay giving you 1/4 Gb of data for some limited surfing if needed and the lower $13/30 days plan price. If 100 outgoing minutes may not do it you can add on outgoing minutes for only 1c a minute to cover that.

AE_Collector

I'm on the 25 dollar plan. I can't justify going down to the 15 dollar plan... It seems too penny pinchy to me. Till Public Mobile or another provider comes out with a better option I'm stuck with the 25 dollar plan. It works for me although I am disgruntled by the dropped phone calls.

Re: 4G/LTE Data

Obice — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 04:12:46 GMT

@cellphoneuser1 wrote:
@Obice wrote:
Hi,

Is there any chance that Public Mobile will bring back 4G/LTE data for actual voice plans and not just a single data-only plan? It would be nice to have that extra speed and I'm sure the majority of us would not only be willing to pay a little extra for it but also very much appreciate having it.

I can certainly live without while on the other hand... Why live without if you can have it?
They don't seem to care about LTE and Public would rather have you go to Koodo.

We're apparently on the LTE network just very throttled.

Re: 4G/LTE Data

cellphoneuser1 — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 04:18:17 GMT

@Obice wrote:
@cellphoneuser1 wrote:
@Obice wrote:
Hi,

Is there any chance that Public Mobile will bring back 4G/LTE data for actual voice plans and not just a single data-only plan? It would be nice to have that extra speed and I'm sure the majority of us would not only be willing to pay a little extra for it but also very much appreciate having it.

I can certainly live without while on the other hand... Why live without if you can have it?
They don't seem to care about LTE and Public would rather have you go to Koodo.
We're apparently on the LTE network just very throttled.

Yes, but Telus would rather have everyone on postpaid at Koodo or Telus. The faster speeds there are a way for them to get you there.

Re: 4G/LTE Data

Obice — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 04:19:46 GMT

@cellphoneuser1 wrote:
@Obice wrote:
@cellphoneuser1 wrote:
@Obice wrote:
Hi,

Is there any chance that Public Mobile will bring back 4G/LTE data for actual voice plans and not just a single data-only plan? It would be nice to have that extra speed and I'm sure the majority of us would not only be willing to pay a little extra for it but also very much appreciate having it.

I can certainly live without while on the other hand... Why live without if you can have it?
They don't seem to care about LTE and Public would rather have you go to Koodo.
We're apparently on the LTE network just very throttled.
Yes, but Telus would rather have everyone on postpaid at Koodo or Telus. The faster speeds there are a way for them to get you there.

How right you are... for most people. I won't pay the admission.

Re: 4G/LTE Data

Obice — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 04:33:01 GMT

I could add a line to another service I have if I really wanted to. I'd rather gimp out though to what I barely use.

I might end up using Fongo Mobile or Fongo Home phone for outgoing calls though since the connection would be much closer than any radio tower.

Re: 4G/LTE Data

darlicious — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 05:47:49 GMT

@Obice I'm curious about your comment on the reliability of a landline when the power goes out and the battery runs out after x amount a time? This assuming you are using a portable handset that requires recharging a battery/base via an outlet. A traditional hard wired phone is on its own separate electrial/telephone line that rarely goes out during a power outage unless the telephone lines (non-underground) are taken out as well during for example a powerful windstorm. More secure? In that a landline is not easily tapped without a warrant...but a cellphone can easily be tapped by apps designed to use the ss7 to eavesdrop, record or even intercept your phone calls. There are still advantages to having a landline even if it's just 911 being able to locate you in an emergency.

Re: 4G/LTE Data

Obice — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 11:06:01 GMT

@darlicious wrote:
@Obice I'm curious about your comment on the reliability of a landline when the power goes out and the battery runs out after x amount a time? This assuming you are using a portable handset that requires recharging a battery/base via an outlet. A traditional hard wired phone is on its own separate electrial/telephone line that rarely goes out during a power outage unless the telephone lines (non-underground) are taken out as well during for example a powerful windstorm. More secure? In that a landline is not easily tapped without a warrant...but a cellphone can easily be tapped by apps designed to use the ss7 to eavesdrop, record or even intercept your phone calls. There are still advantages to having a landline even if it's just 911 being able to locate you in an emergency.

...I posted a response, refreshed the page and it's gone... Hmmm...

Re: 4G/LTE Data

Obice — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 11:07:56 GMT

I guess every time I post a response I ought to screenshot it as evidence. (eye roll)

Re: 4G/LTE Data

darlicious — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 11:58:04 GMT

@Obice I can help with that....but my copy and paste skills have been failing me lately so give me a couple....

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darlicious — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:05:41 GMT

https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/premod/moderationitemspage/tab/rejected
@Obice wrote:
I guess every time I post a response I ought to screenshot it as evidence. (eye roll)

@Obice I am a frequent victim of the relatively rare *poof* the magic dragon disappearing posts bug. I was very lucky to be supplied this link here ....ok as you can see my copy and paste skills still suck. So either try "here" as the link or the https address above and tell me if it worked to find your missing post. Coincidently I lost a post the night before so I looked it up this morning and put it in my drafts for easier access. Fingers crossed!