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Which phone brands allow almost root-like control?

sahands — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 08:34:08 GMT

I know that xiaomi phones give the user a lot of control over apps, such as which apps can access wifi or data (which I found very handy). Are there any other brands that give users a good amount of control over the phone and its apps?

thanks

Re: Which phone brands allow almost root-like control?

RobertQc — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 03:51:44 GMT

@sahands wrote:
I know that xiaomi phones give the user a lot of control over apps, such as which apps can access wifi or data (which I found very handy). Are there any other brands that give users a good amount of control over the phone and its apps?

thanks

@sahands Andriod one. But still all basic forms of andriod are limited.

Look into phones that actually have people devoloping roms/root for the phone.

Look into havoc/lineageOS supported devices

Re: Which phone brands allow almost root-like control?

RobertQc — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 03:53:23 GMT

Even a non rooted phone can run "no root firewall" and do that.

However root your phone, and use something like AFWall

Re: Which phone brands allow almost root-like control?

popping — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 03:54:12 GMT

@sahands

If you are into custom ROM and rooting your phone (superuser), get a phone which allows you to unlock the bootloader. I know that Huawei and LG does not offer unloak bootloader anymore.

Re: Which phone brands allow almost root-like control?

will13am — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 05:18:47 GMT

Xiaomi, pixel, one plus are top brands that allow bootloader unlocking. Look into the lineage OS for phone models that are supported.

Re: Which phone brands allow almost root-like control?

RobertQc — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 06:08:39 GMT

@sahands @will13am is right to mention the pixel (that replaced the nexus line) and even the old school 2012 nexus 4 is on nightly build for lineage 15.1, google phones (even though google doesnt actually make their own phones) foxconn, htc, lg, motorolla, etc but unlike samsung (and some others) they dont typically branch out into a ton of different variants with different chipsets, so support for that specific model is high

You can be sure getting a pixel or nexus phone you will be brought well into the future for support and updates. Although xaomi makes good phones for a real good price, developer support for them seem to die quick if thats your game.

I don't know alot about the oneplus lines but have heard they have very good aftermarket development also, but whatever you do just do some reading on it.

Re: Which phone brands allow almost root-like control?

will13am — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 15:30:26 GMT

@RobertQc wrote:
@sahands @will13am is right to mention the pixel (that replaced the nexus line) and even the old school 2012 nexus 4 is on nightly build for lineage 15.1, google phones (even though google doesnt actually make their own phones) foxconn, htc, lg, motorolla, etc but unlike samsung (and some others) they dont typically branch out into a ton of different variants with different chipsets, so support for that specific model is high

You can be sure getting a pixel or nexus phone you will be brought well into the future for support and updates. Although xaomi makes good phones for a real good price, developer support for them seem to die quick if thats your game.

I don't know alot about the oneplus lines but have heard they have very good aftermarket development also, but whatever you do just do some reading on it.

One plus = pixel pretty much as far as the custom rom scene goes. I have a one plus one which continues to be supported. I don't use the phone in active service anymore. It is still fully functional and I play around with it from time to time to keep up with the third party rom scene. Anyway, here is the list of hardware that lineage 16 (pie) supports.

https://www.cyanogenmods.org/lineageos-16-supported-devices-list-and-downloads-android-pie-9-0/#OPPO

Re: Which phone brands allow almost root-like control?

will13am — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 15:31:55 GMT

@slash407 wrote:
xiaomi is the most extensive phone brand in that regard, by far, bcuz xiao wants u to use there services and hopfully they can start charging for their services in the long run, its their bizzness approach they are taking. Thats why they give u all those options

Please quote your sources or it didn't happen. When you say charge for services, what services are you referring to?

Re: Which phone brands allow almost root-like control?

will13am — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 15:51:20 GMT

@slash407 wrote:
also side-note, u really shouldnt root ur new phone, it was good back in the day but with the way the phones are designed with the software, ur looking for trouble rooting a phone these days if u ask me, plus most phones these days give u alot to handle so there isn't much of a need to root.

Rooting is a hassle too with new phones, not guaranteed neither

I would say as someone who uses phone rooting as a means of accessing better software/software support and to extend support duration, I totally disagree with what you say. There is no trouble with rooting which starts with unlocking the bootloader. These days, oem that support use of third party roms generally offer a mean of unlocking the bootloader. In Xiaomi's case, you apply for it through your Mi account. This is oem sponsored rooting in my books.

As for the performance of the third party firmware, I would say gone are the days of alpha builds that don't work. Building the nightly and weekly releases have become very refined. Try it before you go off giving false opinions.