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Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no data?

Vandypants — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 08:01:46 GMT

Hi PM Community,

I'm traveling to Maui in the next 2 weeks and I wanted to use PM, because it's the cheapest rate for the 2 weeks I will be away. I already purchased a SIM.

My question is if I activate it and choose a No Talk, No Text, No Data plan, can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons or do I need, at the minimum, a plan with Talk on it?

Thanks!

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

Dunkman — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 02:42:24 GMT

@Vandypants

You need some basic plan. The $10 plan for 50 minutes/50 text would work for your purposes. If you sign up for autopay, the plan would be $8 ($2 monthly credit).

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

wetcoaster — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 02:43:11 GMT

@Vandypants wrote:
Hi PM Community,

I'm traveling to Maui in the next 2 weeks and I wanted to use PM, because it's the cheapest rate for the 2 weeks I will be away. I already purchased a SIM.

My question is if I activate it and choose a No Talk, No Text, No Data plan, can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons or do I need, at the minimum, a plan with Talk on it?

Thanks!

You will need an active "in Canada" plan for the roaming to work. The $10 50minutes/50texts will be sufficient.

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

Carld123 — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 02:44:32 GMT

@Vandypants wrote:
Hi PM Community,

I'm traveling to Maui in the next 2 weeks and I wanted to use PM, because it's the cheapest rate for the 2 weeks I will be away. I already purchased a SIM.

My question is if I activate it and choose a No Talk, No Text, No Data plan, can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons or do I need, at the minimum, a plan with Talk on it?

Thanks!

@Vandypants... @Anonymous is the maui specialist..😀😀😀

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

Carld123 — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 02:52:20 GMT

No talk..no text ..no data..awesome plan. ..never priced that one...👍

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

wetcoaster — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 03:02:48 GMT

@Carld123 wrote:
No talk..no text ..no data..awesome plan. ..never priced that one...👍

@Carld123

Not sure if you are joking... No talk, no text, no data is not a plan. It's the base fee, you'll NEED at least one base feature to make it an active plan in good standing.

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

Carld123 — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 03:06:17 GMT

@wetcoaster wrote:
@Carld123 wrote:
No talk..no text ..no data..awesome plan. ..never priced that one...👍
@Carld123
Not sure if you are joking... No talk, no text, no data is not a plan. It's the base fee, you'll NEED at least one base feature to make it an active plan in good standing.

@wetcoaster
Thats what the op wanted..if you choose build a plan...with nothing it costs10$ / 30 days...😃😀😃😀👍

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

krazykiwi — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 03:50:17 GMT

@wetcoaster wrote:
@Carld123 wrote:
No talk..no text ..no data..awesome plan. ..never priced that one...👍
@Carld123
Not sure if you are joking... No talk, no text, no data is not a plan. It's the base fee, you'll NEED at least one base feature to make it an active plan in good standing.

I am not sure why you would chose a no talk, no text no data for $10 where, if it was possible the US roaming would not work as opposed to choosing the $10 talk, text, data plan that cost.....well the the same thing.... and all add-ons will work.

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 04:15:28 GMT

@Carld123 wrote:
@Vandypants... @Anonymous is the maui specialist..😀😀😀

I'm home. 😞

@Vandypants: If you aren't currently using PM then forget about roaming. Go to Target not far from the airport on your way to your destination (if you're renting a car) and get the yellow H2O SIM and real, true, pay-as-you-go service for $11US. $1 for the SIM and $10 to get you going. Works on AT&T. Get it all going online and the fun part is that you would have a local 808 number.

As for roaming...the policy here states that you have to have talk in your base plan. But that has been found to be not entirely true in reality.

It's also known that you can receive texts in the states without any roaming add-on. Not outgoing.

The funny thing I discovered was that I was also able to receive calls....again without any roaming add-on and again...no outgoing.

No data...although it seems I can't edit the APN in my antique BB OS10 phone.

If you haven't been to Maui before, you'll love it.

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

stonechucker — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 04:21:48 GMT

I know I’ve read that you do not need a talk or sms plan to use any of the US talk, sms, or data roaming addons, but having no base plan is not a plan in Canada.

i have no idea if this is possible on a no selection base plan. For security of service, the $10 50/50 is the same price as no plan, so pick the 50/50 as your base, then get the desired addon(s) for US Roaming.

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 04:48:54 GMT

@stonechucker wrote:
I know I’ve read that you do not need a talk or sms plan to use any of the US talk, sms, or data roaming addons, but having no base plan is not a plan in Canada.

i have no idea if this is possible on a no selection base plan. For security of service, the $10 50/50 is the same price as no plan, so pick the 50/50 as your base, then get the desired addon(s) for US Roaming.

Curious though that in the BYOP you can click on the 30 day choice, click No Talk, click No Text, click No Data and it gives a total of $10. Even curiouser...select 90 days and those things and it does NOT come out to $30. It's $25.

It seems to say that in the Change Plan area as well. But no I haven't tried it.

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

stonechucker — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 05:00:27 GMT

@Anonymous, yes, thé #10 and #25 are thé base amounts, of the base plans. Voice, sms, and data each have their own values, and pick 2 or more options of talk, sms, or data give different discounts.

Back in the day, the 90-day plans were cost savings, over the 30*day options.

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

Tav — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 13:02:07 GMT

If you have no talk, no text and no data then would you even get a number? No number no roam?

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

GreatCanadian — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 13:21:43 GMT

@Tav I believe he would get a number because before he actually choses his plan he will have to go through the activation process, which includes choosing a number.

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

srlawren — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:38:58 GMT

@stonechucker wrote:
I know I’ve read that you do not need a talk or sms plan to use any of the US talk, sms, or data roaming addons, but having no base plan is not a plan in Canada.

@Anonymous wrote:
Curious though that in the BYOP you can click on the 30 day choice, click No Talk, click No Text, click No Data and it gives a total of $10. Even curiouser...select 90 days and those things and it does NOT come out to $30. It's $25.
It seems to say that in the Change Plan area as well. But no I haven't tried it.

@stonechucker @Anonymous you cannot activate a new account with the base plan, nor can you switch your plan to it if you have an active account already. It is not a valid plan, and you can't choose it.

@Tav wrote:
If you have no talk, no text and no data then would you even get a number? No number no roam?

@Tav you would have no number, however, you would not have an active account or line as you cannot proceed with the base plan without any services (see above)

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To summarize:

- The no talk, no text, no data "plan" is not a plan. It's the base on which you must add at least one service in order to have a valid plan. The system won't let you actually commit this choice

- The no talk, no text, no data "plan" for $10 is exactly the same cost as the $10/50/50 plan, so there's literally no reason to even try to choose it (not that the system would let you)

- Roaming services do not depend on you having the equivalent service in your plan. In other words, if you have a data-only plan at home, you can still purchase a talk or text US roaming add-on; if you have a talk + text plan at home you could still choose US Roaming data with or without US roaming talk or text -- there is no dependency on specific domestic services

- HOWEVER, the only dependency is that that you do have to have an active account, with a valid plan--which the base plan is not.

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:46:25 GMT

@srlawren wrote:

It is not a valid plan, and you can't choose it.

I feel this odd compulsion to throw some money away to actually test this out. Y'know...stated functionality as opposed to reality on the ground and all that. CalgaryBen are you with me? 🙂

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

srlawren — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:56:06 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
@srlawren wrote:

It is not a valid plan, and you can't choose it.
I feel this odd compulsion to throw some money away to actually test this out. Y'know...stated functionality as opposed to reality on the ground and all that. CalgaryBen are you with me? 🙂

@Anonymous @CalgaryBen by all means, please do test this out! Let me know if I'm wrong. It would neither be the first nor last time.

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 18:14:01 GMT

@srlawren wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
@srlawren wrote:

It is not a valid plan, and you can't choose it.
I feel this odd compulsion to throw some money away to actually test this out. Y'know...stated functionality as opposed to reality on the ground and all that. CalgaryBen are you with me? 🙂
@Anonymous @CalgaryBen by all means, please do test this out! Let me know if I'm wrong. It would neither be the first nor last time.

Well that was a waste of typing and effort to even think about.

No. Change Plan, choose the nothing options, can't even proceed with it. I had the Available Funds to do the $10 nothing plan but I'm not going to put in more to try the 90 day nothing plan. Maybe someone else with more Available Funds a day or so before the end of their term could try it. I renew on maintenance night so I decided to see what would happen.

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

srlawren — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 18:19:29 GMT

@Anonymous is now the appropriate time to cheekily say "I told you so!"? If not, I can wait a little. 😉

Re: Can I purchase and use any of the US Roaming Addons if my plan has no talk, no text and/or no da

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 18:21:23 GMT

@srlawren wrote:
@Anonymous is now the appropriate time to cheekily say "I told you so!"? If not, I can wait a little. 😉

lol

Well...y'coulda said that attempting to do so does not let you proceed.

But...you told me so! 🙂