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519 Numbers...

Barryere — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 07:47:00 GMT

Hi,

First of all, I'm not sure if this is the proper topic area for this question, so if not... move it, I guess.

Is there a chance in the future we could get/pick 519 numbers? I'd prefer 519 over 226 as petty as it may seem.

Re: 519 Numbers...

RobertQc — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 16:14:51 GMT

@Barryere wrote:
Hi,

First of all, I'm not sure if this is the proper topic area for this question, so if not... move it, I guess.

Is there a chance in the future we could get/pick 519 numbers? I'd prefer 519 over 226 as petty as it may seem.

@BarryereI wish changing a phone number in self serve was as easy with an open account, as it is for first choosing one.

At first sign up (activation) you can choose your last 4 digits (Or at least see if they are available) also you can hit "show more options" and it will show you more and more.

Changing your number is self-serve sucks.

But there are 519 available in On-MountForst (But may cause issues with someone who has a crappy lane line with local calling only)

Re: 519 Numbers...

stonechucker — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 15:24:02 GMT

The ability to get a certain area code is based on the numbers available to Telus (and ho they distribute to Koodo and Public Mobile) within the allotted area code and exchange for each calling centre.

519 numbers are very popular, and 226 have been around for ages now, so 226 although not favourable, are more than likely what is available on a third tier service provider.

The larger the calling centre, the less likely to get an old 519.

Frankly, be happy you're not getting the new 5optionsons (yet).

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RobertQc — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 16:13:13 GMT

Re: 519 Numbers...

stonechucker — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 15:51:19 GMT

@RobertQc, not sure how suitable a Mount Forest number would be for @Barryere. It's smack dab in the middle of Very Rural Ontario.

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RobertQc — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 15:59:31 GMT

@stonechucker wrote:
@RobertQc, not sure how suitable a Mount Forest number would be for @Barryere. It's smack dab in the middle of Very Rural Ontario.

@stonechuckerShouldn't matter? It's still 519 and in the same province.

I wanted a specific area code and because all the ones for my city were stupid and I didn't recognize them, I found other cities that had the area code I wanted and used that. I have not experienced any issues.

I guess if someone has "city wide calling" it could be an issue. Is city wide calling a thing?

Re: 519 Numbers...

stonechucker — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 16:04:25 GMT

Local calling is the issue. Next door neighbours on a landline, a local employer trying to reach you, the local doctor trying to reach you.

A cell phone always calls 'local' without charge in the area they are in. A landline ONLY calls free of charge to the local calling area.

I refuse to make someone local to me, call me long distance.

Re: 519 Numbers...

RobertQc — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 16:12:59 GMT

@stonechucker wrote:
Local calling is the issue. Next door neighbours on a landline, a local employer trying to reach you, the local doctor trying to reach you.

A cell phone always calls 'local' without charge in the area they are in. A landline ONLY calls free of charge to the local calling area.

I refuse to make someone local to me, call me long distance.

@stonechuckerInteresting- so you are saying someone with a landline that calls a 519 number from a 519 number may still incurr long distance if its in a different city? It's not all about the area code?

Learn something new every day (today two things!)

Re: 519 Numbers...

stonechucker — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 16:20:13 GMT

Oh yes! 519 covers from the Michigan border in the West of Southern Ontario, to areas just west of Hamilton (at Lake Ontario), from Lake Erie north to at least Owen Sound, possibly further. 519, 226, and 548 are all area codes for the entire area.

Brantford to Cambridge is about a 40-minute drive, but it's a long distance call. Brantford to Simcoe is a much long drive (distance), but it's a local call.

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Barryere — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:28:52 GMT

I'm not overly burdened by having a LD number. Everyone I contact has Canada wide features, however, as mentioned... for doctors and such, it may be unfair to them to have to call me if my number is LD to them.

I've actually thought about cutting out the middle man (PM) and going straight to Telus, as I have had service with them before I know they have (519) but their prices are criminal; as are Bell and Rogers. Quite frankly, Koodo, Fido and Virgin are all one in the same. Prices in Ontario (I can't speak for other provinces) are criminally preposterous. If it wasn't for PM I'd likely stick to VOIP. And if PM goes up in price or I need money for more important things... VOIP it is, again.

A phone is needed and a huge asset to life, businesses know that and like anything they take advantage of it, it's a sick world but here we are.

Re: 519 Numbers...

will13am — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:37:36 GMT

Only people who have very, very legacy plans have local calling feature. Province wide calling has been the minimum free calling range for some time. Honestly, we should not have to fret over area code selection in the 21st century. I long for the day when I can select an AB area code to save on PST and not have my contacts yell at me for costing them long distance charges. With Public Mobile, it seems like the number selection is rather limited. Being a third tier service, they probably get the dregs from Telus/Koodo.

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stonechucker — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:54:40 GMT

The last landline service I paid for was an 'access line' from Bell for $19 a month. It was simply to receive the call from the box on the wall outside the apartment main door, so I could answer and turn away, or buzz in a visitor.

I do not know what a local calling landline plane costs these days, as I only use my cellular phone at home, including the apartment door buzzer now. Note... the property manager will not allow a non-local number be set-up as the call box is designed for local calls only.

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Barryere — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 20:57:49 GMT

@stonechucker wrote:
The last landline service I paid for was an 'access line' from Bell for $19 a month. It was simply to receive the call from the box on the wall outside the apartment main door, so I could answer and turn away, or buzz in a visitor.

I do not know what a local calling landline plane costs these days, as I only use my cellular phone at home, including the apartment door buzzer now. Note... the property manager will not allow a non-local number be set-up as the call box is designed for local calls only.

A landline from Bell or Cogeco is about $50-60 either way, whether that includes LD or not I have no idea. If I had to guess, they'd likely make you pay even more for LD and $50-60 is criminal as it is.

I'm at a cross-roads for phone service and I have been since I've had my own phone (4-5 years). I absolutely despise pricing of services be it for the phone or internet, but that's what's there and they know they have you in the corner.

There will come a point I think where once VOIP becomes popular enough because a landline is so outrageously priced that companies like Bell and Cogeco will take new measures to create wealth by going into the VOIP business or by upping the cost of internet/tv services.

As for Bell, they have already been working on a project for the last 5-10 years to reduce costs on their end. Soon we'll have fiber optics everywhere and the boxes to control it will reside in our own houses so we'll be paying the electricity for it while Bell gets to charge us the same or more for internet so we'll be paying for both the electricity and our internet. What a world...

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computergeek541 — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 23:02:10 GMT

@RobertQc wrote:
@stonechucker wrote:
Local calling is the issue. Next door neighbours on a landline, a local employer trying to reach you, the local doctor trying to reach you.

A cell phone always calls 'local' without charge in the area they are in. A landline ONLY calls free of charge to the local calling area.

I refuse to make someone local to me, call me long distance.
@stonechuckerInteresting- so you are saying someone with a landline that calls a 519 number from a 519 number may still incurr long distance if its in a different city? It's not all about the area code?

Learn something new every day (today two things!)

Local calling areas are not based on area codes. They are based on where the call originates and where the call is going. Each originating citiy for an outgoing call has a unique local calling area. The 519 area code covers many different cities, many of which are long distance calls from each other. For example, if someone who has a 519 Ktichener phone number and uses a landline to make an outgoing call to a 519 area code number in Windsor, that is a long distance call.

I would say that many (if not most people) using a landline are still on basic calling plans that do not any type of long distance outside of that city's local calling area.

By taking a phone number from a different city, even a nearby one, you may be forcing others to pay long distance charges to call you (even if they are calling from a place with the same area code).

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Barryere — Wed, 12 Dec 2018 23:53:12 GMT

Everyone I contact uses a Windsor area code.

My brother doesn't even have a real phone plan but he's the only one I know using a Brampton(? / in that area - 519 900 ####) number through textPlus, his textNow number is Windsor though.

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stonechucker — Thu, 13 Dec 2018 03:18:35 GMT

That’s actually a Brantford local exchange. I only know this, because the City Transit bus stops IVR uses a 519-900-xxxx number.

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RobertQc — Thu, 13 Dec 2018 03:21:26 GMT

@Barryere wrote:
Everyone I contact uses a Windsor area code.

My brother doesn't even have a real phone plan but he's the only one I know using a Brampton(? / in that area - 519 900 ####) number through textPlus, his textNow number is Windsor though.

@Barryere

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stonechucker — Thu, 13 Dec 2018 03:26:35 GMT

Brantford is not a local call to either Mount Forest or Windsor Ontario... lol

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RobertQc — Thu, 13 Dec 2018 03:33:35 GMT

@stonechucker wrote:
Brantford is not a local call to either Mount Forest or Windsor Ontario... lol

@stonechuckerlol. I would be embaressed if I told someone I couldn't call them because I had local calling only.

If someone told me they had local calling only, I would use that opportunity to get a referral and save them a lot of money and be their hero.

Re: 519 Numbers...

computergeek541 — Thu, 13 Dec 2018 03:46:56 GMT

@will13am wrote:
Only people who have very, very legacy plans have local calling feature. Province wide calling has been the minimum free calling range for some time. Honestly, we should not have to fret over area code selection in the 21st century.

I agree with you that the long distance in the 21st century, especially within the same country is a bunch of b.s.

I will say that at least provincial calling being included as the norm, that may be the case for cell phone plans, but sadly, is still not the case for tranditional landline service. Bell Canada still insists on only including local calling in its residential calling plans.

I am fully aware that less and less people have landlines, but that may not be completely because of the technlology shifts, but because unlimited calling cell phone plans can be had for less expensive that POTS landline services.