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Price hikes support the revolt if it happens to legacy plans

Mreekster — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 07:29:22 GMT

Just leave to teach them a lesson. It is a bare bones company that needed the user to promote which I referred freedom mobile customers to. Brutal bait and switch. We are the ones not interested in top tier robelus plans with a new iPhone every two years. We were the ones not interested in wasting an afternoon with the retention department. This is a slap in the face. If my rates jump up on the promo plans just switch to something better or even if it is the same. I am sure one of the other discount brands will offer up something as soon as they change them

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will13am — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 19:47:34 GMT

@Mreekster, I am standing shoulder to shoulder with you on this one. I have always been loyal to my wallet first. Definitely, I go where the bargains are. This is certainly going to stop me from recommending this service to anyone. I will stay the course myself unless something cheaper and better comes along or that prices on the legacy plans go up and I get nudged out the door.

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xCameron94x — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 20:07:46 GMT

Could really only be a matter of time before Freedom or Fido/Virgin make a deal to attract PM customers. I saw freedom offering 6GB for $44, but of course you need a phone with band 66, plus its Freedom. Now the smaller three are doing $10 for 6 months on their BYOP plans too

Re: Price hikes support the revolt if it happens to legacy plans

mimmo — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 20:15:49 GMT

@Mreekster, This topic has been discused for over a week now in several threads no need to start a new one.

no i do not like the new prices and do not think i can refer anyone unless there is a great promo in the future.

Bait and switch not really. have tehy changed your plan yet? no. will they maybe but it depends to what and by how much.

PM i believe has treated everyone who has asked for the pre price hike plans (and who ordered sims a resonable time before teh hike) with respect and has worked with them to make them happy. PM did not need to do that.

dont forget companied change and grow add new products and remove some. I Would love to have my MCRib, or my McDonalds pizza.... but they are no longer offered, but I can get a chocolate/bananna pie.

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zhadj030 — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 20:19:56 GMT

@mimmo lol

this community is the best in finding the perfect examples

Re: Price hikes support the revolt if it happens to legacy plans

srlawren — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 20:35:48 GMT

Guys, there is no plans to touch anybody's grandfathered plans. If you stay on the plan you're on already, you'll continue to get the same great talk and/or text and/or data service at the same rate for the forseeable future. Don't panic. Listen, I hate the new pricing as much as anyone else, but I don't think it's reason to leave if you're on a grandfathered plan--particularly so if you're on one of the promo plans.

Technically they could raise prices on grandfathered plans with 30 days notice, and that's one of the few drawbacks of being contract free is that technically you have no price protection which you would get from a contract. However, they are well aware that if they want to keep their existing subscriber base it's in their best interest not to do that. I'm not saying it will never happen or could never happen, but I don't think there's anything to worry about at the moment.

If you do happen to leave over this, I'd be curious to hear where you land and what plan you end up with, and for what cost.

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mimmo — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 20:53:08 GMT

@srlawren, I agree 100% with you.

I think many people are more upset that they will find it harder/impossible to refer people to PM beacuse the prices are now so similar to the bigger brothers.

History has shown PM treats its existing members fairly as i metioned in some other thread even if PM hiked their prices 10-15$ /30 days for 4gb promo, i think few would leave, because even with the price hike it would be hard to find a similar plan. unless you decide for plans with less data

I can still brag to people hey i'm paying x here at PM, but the i can get you a great deal part is over . It will have to wait to see they decide to do another promo.

remember everone at the beggining of teh year screamng the $54ish for 12gb/90 day promo was too expencive. I bet they would all jump on it now.

Re: Price hikes support the revolt if it happens to legacy plans

zhadj030 — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 22:02:27 GMT

@mimmo wrote:
@srlawren, I agree 100% with you.

History has shown PM treats its existing members fairly as i metioned in some other thread even if PM hiked their prices 10-15$ /30 days for 4gb promo, i think few would leave, because even with the price hike it would be hard to find a similar plan. unless you decide for plans with less data

@mimmo I agree with a lot of what you said except the bold red part.

While sure we are paying a great price for the promo, a hike on that would kill the meaning of the promo. I know for sure that the area of Ottawa will be empty of PM subscribers.

As I mentionned in other threads, we have a very great advantage with the fact that the forth player Videotron has a kioske in ottawa to serve us the same prices as the compitions in Quebec, without having to change our number or address.

In fact the whole reddit groupe in ottawa/ all my co-workers are subscribed with them and their coverage in the capital is on par with Telus/Bell. No wonder that I could not convince anywone to join PM even under the promo .

And the fact that Gatineau doesnt count as local calling does not help either. (A lot of people live in Gatineau (QC) crosse the bridge and work in Ottawa (ON) so they have a mix of both area codes, but PM's system still treats them as canada Wide calling, and in my knowledge it is the only one that does that.)

Now during the current Videotron promo 55/month similar to 15 dollars increase (In our promo) would see me get not 4, not 5 or 6 GB of LTE but 8 GB and does include global text as well as Canada Wide call. Now if you are in our situation, what makes you think that none of us would leave for videotron ?

While Outside Quebec+ Ottawa you would be roaming on rogers LTE, and if not available it would be on Bell/Telus 3G.

Re: Price hikes support the revolt if it happens to legacy plans

zhadj030 — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 22:26:01 GMT

Unfortunatly for people living in the center of the universe and the rest of Canada, Most usage has to be done inside of Videotron area, so You guys won't be able to profit out of that. (Unless you move to Ottawa ), AKA

the city that fun forgot by John Oliver XD so obviosly HBO meaning don't watch it at work

Re: Price hikes support the revolt if it happens to legacy plans

Michael77 — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 22:10:31 GMT

Hi srlawren,

What you have said makes total sense! 🙂

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mimmo — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 22:25:42 GMT

@zhadj030 No Probelms with differering opinions every province might have differing factors like a non big 3 player.

I was basing my comment on the fact

koodo/virgin offering 1gb for 40, 2 gb for 55, 3gb for 65 or 4gb $85
zoomer promos 2gb for 40.5$, 2.5 for 2.5 gb, 3gb for 54$

Plus don't forget the rewards (autopay, loyalty and community and referals) many have brougt the monthly plans down by 5-15 or more.

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will13am — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 03:01:02 GMT

@mimmo wrote:
@srlawren, I agree 100% with you.

I think many people are more upset that they will find it harder/impossible to refer people to PM beacuse the prices are now so similar to the bigger brothers.

History has shown PM treats its existing members fairly as i metioned in some other thread even if PM hiked their prices 10-15$ /30 days for 4gb promo, i think few would leave, because even with the price hike it would be hard to find a similar plan. unless you decide for plans with less data

I can still brag to people hey i'm paying x here at PM, but the i can get you a great deal part is over . It will have to wait to see they decide to do another promo.

remember everone at the beggining of teh year screamng the $54ish for 12gb/90 day promo was too expencive. I bet they would all jump on it now.

If my rates went up $10-15 per month, I would be sprinting faster Usain Bolt on steroids. That would be a greater than 30% increase. The last time I checked, my salary increase was nowhere near that level. I do pride myself on being a pretty good shopper. I think I can get a plan that is south of $55 per month that comes without hardware. I just got here and I am not asking to be challenged so soon. However, I will accept the challenge if that is what it comes down to. Wind grandfathered my $25 (with BTS)/5 gig unthrottled (well not intentionally anyway) 3G plan for more than 4 years while I was with them. Let see if Public Mobile can beat that for grandfather duration.

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mimmo — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 03:24:25 GMT

So if my 4gb/30day plan went up $15,from 40 to 55, sure i would look, but i am not sure i would find a 4gb plan at a similar price point even with the increased price seeing how prices are going. Would need to find an incredible deal...

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SD08 — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 05:44:37 GMT

@will13am wrote:
If my rates went up $10-15 per month, I would be sprinting faster Usain Bolt on steroids. That would be a greater than 30% increase. The last time I checked, my salary increase was nowhere near that level. I do pride myself on being a pretty good shopper. I think I can get a plan that is south of $55 per month that comes without hardware. I just got here and I am not asking to be challenged so soon. However, I will accept the challenge if that is what it comes down to. Wind grandfathered my $25 (with BTS)/5 gig unthrottled (well not intentionally anyway) 3G plan for more than 4 years while I was with them. Let see if Public Mobile can beat that for grandfather duration.

^This.

If my cost went to $55, I'd find other options even if I have to downgrade the data allotment, since I could easily get by with 1GB per month if I had to. I'm actually on pace to use only 2.6 of 12 GB this cycle (and some of that was speedtests), so I have plenty of room to cut. I only took this plan in the first place because it happened to fall within my budget, with a bonus big data bucket I wasn't even looking for. Yeah, maybe I'd be willing to pay $55/month...10 years from now.

Re: Price hikes support the revolt if it happens to legacy plans

Mreekster — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 11:49:29 GMT

30 percent increase is if it happens yes but if if it happens. But if customers are not vocal about it and do not voice their concerns then they will do it. How would you feel if your internet company rolled you back to 56kbps modem? Maybe some of you do not even remember what that is, but freedom is ramping up, not down. Time for real competition. Canada needs MVNO companies to give a market shakeup. Resellers giving part of the market lower rates from the big telcos. These are the companies that are really lower in the US, not the main carriers. The Koodo, fido, virgin networks are just masquerading as the American MVNO's to keep the market share to them selves. Hope you hear this Robelus.
P.S. I don't like McRibs tell that to your Telus management

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Michael77 — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 12:04:35 GMT

CRTC will 'need to act' to boost wireless competition, Blais says

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/departing-chair-blais-crtc-will-need-to-act-to-increase-wireless-competition/article35296327/

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zhadj030 — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 12:42:48 GMT

@Michael77 wrote:
CRTC will 'need to act' to boost wireless competition, Blais says

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/departing-chair-blais-crtc-will-need-to-act-to-increase-wireless-competition/article35296327/

unfortunately nothing but empty talks like usual.

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Michael77 — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 13:54:52 GMT

I would definitely leave if there was $10-$15 rate increase. If PM raised our rates more than $2 or $3, I would probably leave too. Having said that, I would think our rates are safe for now. After all they just ended the last promotion.

I am pretty new to PM but I will give them the benefit of the doubt. From what I've been hearing is that they have been treating their existing customers well. I hope that will continue into the future. 🙂

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CalvinW — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 19:56:23 GMT

PM will increase the prices of grandfathered plans sooner or later. There's no escaping it

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mimmo — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 20:29:26 GMT

@zhadj030, @Michael77, @SD08 I think you may have missed my point about a what if scenario, you need to consider PM rewards. someone with no rewards yes time to switch if they can find another $40 plan with enough data.

If we said the average active/semi-active community member had the following plan and rewards: (i am sure many of us have larger referral or community rewards)

$40 fall 4 gb promo
$2 auto pay
$2 community ( 25%)
$2 (2 referrals)
$1 loyalty

Monthly bill would be $40plan - $7 rewards = 33$

Lets say PM decided tomorrow (which they won't, and i do not think they are planning to) but lets say they do raise their prices by $10

plan becomes $50 - $7= $43

As of today current pricing for plans is:

Virgin- $40- BYOP- 1 gig, 500 Canada-wide
Koodo- $45- BYOP- 1 gig, 500 Canada-wide minutes
Fido- $45 but $5 bill credit=$40- BYOP- 1 gig, 500
Zoomer Mobile $40.50 for 2 gig LTE data
koodo $55 for 2gb

I would seriously think about zoomer, but it would be a tough decision as i would need to cut mobile usage a little but it would be possible.