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    <title>topic Re: Introducing Public Points ™ in Announcements</title>
    <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/777931#M56374</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/66822"&gt;@AE_Collector&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Both my accounts received the “Thanks for Switching” email today as well. If there is anything I need to give PM credit for it is being consistent! It doesn’t matter what is being offered, changed, given away etc…..&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;AE_Collector&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="7776617D-46D4-45D9-8D95-3522E45275F7.jpeg" style="width: 594px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/59387i8F53625F7C6C2676/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="7776617D-46D4-45D9-8D95-3522E45275F7.jpeg" alt="7776617D-46D4-45D9-8D95-3522E45275F7.jpeg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;So the cat's out of the bag (I received the same email notification for all 5 of my existing plans).... Here is my analysis of the net change vs the existing Rewards program:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1 Pt = $1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Get 5pts for sign-up BUT LOSE all account credits (BIG LOSS for some, except for $5 worth) (This seems to replace the $10 referral bonus and is being given to all, even without a referral)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Loyalty Perk - this seems to be a one time bonus for switchers only (vs ongoing as a fixed 1pt/mo as I first thought). This seems to offset any loss of account credits and/or old Loyalty Rewards. The longer you have been with PM, the bigger the one-time perk. As an offset to the latter, this is like PM pre-paying your old Loyalty reward. Divide this perk by your current Loyalty Reward rate to figure out the equivalent number of months you are getting "prepaid".&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Anniversary Reward points = &amp;lt; 1pt / mon (replacing the old Loyalty Reward) This is equivalent to $0.83/mo. This is a LOSS of up to $4.17/mon in year 5 and beyond.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Autopay - replaced with 5% pts per amount spent monthly... If monthly plan is less than $40/mon, this is a LOSS, up to $1.50/mo). So, only a GAIN IF your plan is over $40. On the current most expensive plan of $70, that is only 1.5 pts ($) more.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Refer-A-Friend - no change&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Community - no change (assuming PM uses the same formula vs existing Rewards customers)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;So based on this, what is the benefit of the new rewards program for existing customers? What good reason would any existing customer switch? So, it seems there is a small advantage if you are far from earning the full Loyalty Reward under the old existing program, and more so if you are on a plan over $40, but it is still at the loss of you become a long-term customer.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EDIT: Correction to Loyalty + Anniversary Rewards comparison. Loyalty Perk is only a one-time perk for existing customers switching to the new rewards program and Anniversary bonus replaces the old Loyalty Rewards. The benefit of this is quickly offset by the lost of the old Loyalty Reward after about 14-16 months, depending on timing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Because the new customer earns the Anniversary bonus sooner, they are ahead $10 after the first year over the existing customer, who only starts to earn the old reward after 12 months. So it takes the existing customer 28 months to reach the final break-even point. THEN the existing customer will earn more after that. This only applies in comparison to a recent customer just starting out before this new program took effect.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On the other hand, if an existing customer reaches the second anniversary, they now earn $24/yr ($2/mo Loyalty) vs $10 for the new Public Points program. So the benefits of the new Anniversary bonus vanishes after that (there are 3 cross-over points at 22 months (for the first breakeven point), then at 25 months (where you briefly fall behind) and at 28 months (when you finally break even and get and stay ahead). In other words, the closer you are to being a customer for 22 to 28 months, the less of a benefit is the new Public Points rewards program.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;P.S. Based on this, it will take PM a LONG time (a few years?) before they reap the benefits of this program change. The savings to them are virtually nonexistent until about the 3rd year, depending on the number of switchers and the amount they have to pay out in Loyalty perks.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:26:34 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>pm-smayer97</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-01-26T05:26:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775647#M55931</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Hey Community,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;We have some exciting news to share with the Public Mobile Community. We wanted you all to be the first to know we’re launching a new Rewards program soon - Public Points.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Joining Public Points is optional for all existing customers.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Your current rewards will remain the same. You’ll continue to earn in the same ways, and save the same amount.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Once we launch the new program, all new customers will earn their rewards through Public Points.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;If you’re interested in learning more about Public Points, and how you can join, we’ve provided some information below.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Why Public Points?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;With Public Points, there are more ways to earn and spend rewards, making the program more flexible than before. Now you can earn and spend points how you want, when you want. You’re in control.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;How does Public Points work?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Earn Points&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Get rewarded in more ways than ever. Earn points just for paying your bill – for every dollar you spend, you’ll make 5% of it back in points.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&lt;LI-WRAPPER&gt;&lt;/LI-WRAPPER&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Redeem points&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;We like to keep things simple. 1 point earned is valued at 1 dollar when redeemed - that’s it!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Start saving&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Redeem points on things that matter to you – like money off your bill, free add-ons or the chance to win awesome prizes&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;LI-WRAPPER&gt;&lt;/LI-WRAPPER&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&lt;LI-WRAPPER&gt;&lt;/LI-WRAPPER&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Our Rewards Program has and continues to be our unique super power, by giving our customers the chance to earn even more!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Stay tuned for further details soon!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;- Public Mobile Team &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2022 23:29:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775647#M55931</guid>
      <dc:creator>J_PM</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-24T23:29:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775648#M55932</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Why?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:32:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775648#M55932</guid>
      <dc:creator>0PX9O4</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T14:32:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775653#M55934</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/186792"&gt;@J_PM&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Well I like the sound of that! More community engagement, something to get excited about. A program that can bring the community together and that everyone feels they can participate in without needing lightning hands, superior computer skills and a whole lotta time! Love it!!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm excited to hear more about it......lol....and no CSA needed to solve your problems!!&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":grinning_squinting_face:"&gt;😆&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:45:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775653#M55934</guid>
      <dc:creator>darlicious</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T14:45:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775685#M55936</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000080"&gt;That's a smart addition, and we'll keenly look forward to more details.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":red_heart:"&gt;❤️&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 15:49:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775685#M55936</guid>
      <dc:creator>sa7375</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T15:49:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775692#M55937</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/186792"&gt;@J_PM&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;.&amp;nbsp; It sounds exciting.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The fact that there was no major promotion/things happened last year really made me worry about the future of PM.&amp;nbsp; But with the new PM point system, I guess we are good for now&amp;nbsp; &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But, I do have couple questions :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Community and other reward will then be points instead of dollar value?&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;So, the current community reward $15, $10, $5, $2, $1 will becomes 15, 10, 5, 2, 1 points ?&amp;nbsp; Friend Referral will be 1 point per referral per month?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Can points be used for something other than PM service?&amp;nbsp; can it be used to buy phones?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;You will have a better guarding of the system to stop people from gaming the new point system?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 16:03:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775692#M55937</guid>
      <dc:creator>softech</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T16:03:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775706#M55938</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Interesting development. At first glance, an earn rate of 5% back is better than most cashback cards, so there is that at least. But as always, the devil can be in the details. Looking forward to hearing more.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 16:21:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775706#M55938</guid>
      <dc:creator>SD08</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T16:21:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775762#M55939</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Wording is Not that clear.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Your current rewards will remain the same. You’ll continue to earn in the same ways, and save the same amount.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Once we launch the new program, all new customers will earn their rewards through Public Points.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Existing customer will continue to earn rewards as we do now? AND beside that we are going to earn PM points just to pay our bills?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;NEW customers will earn ONLY PM points?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Old and New customers can convert points to money and apply it to bill payment?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 17:25:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775762#M55939</guid>
      <dc:creator>Meow</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T17:25:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775764#M55940</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm concerned about this announcement and I'm not all that excited.&amp;nbsp; While existing customers can choose the current rewards program or the new points program, I'm specifically looking at how points can be used to enter draws for prizes. Only a very small percentage of people will win while the rest of the customers who have entered will end up spending some points but receiving nothing in return.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 17:33:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775764#M55940</guid>
      <dc:creator>computergeek541</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T17:33:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775767#M55941</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/182855"&gt;@Meow&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Existing customer will continue to earn rewards as we do now? AND beside that we are going to earn PM points just to pay our bills?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;NEW customers will earn ONLY PM points?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Old and New customers can convert points to money and apply it to bill payment?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The current rewards and the new points system will be seperate programs. The new program is replacing the old one, but existing cusfomers can ask to be placed on the new program (but don't have to).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2022 04:28:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775767#M55941</guid>
      <dc:creator>computergeek541</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-22T04:28:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775774#M55942</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/15043"&gt;@computergeek541&lt;/a&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;OK, but still confusing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Old customer has $3 loyalty, $2 autopay, $1 Community reward. If old customer does not join new PM point program will it get 5% off for bill payment?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Will New customer get 2 points for autopay and 1 point for Community reward AND 5% off the bill??&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No point of discussing this as of now... We have to wait and see what is in the store for us.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 17:36:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775774#M55942</guid>
      <dc:creator>Meow</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T17:36:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775777#M55943</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/182855"&gt;@Meow&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/15043"&gt;@computergeek541&lt;/a&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;OK, but still confusing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Old customer has $3 loyalty, $2 autopay, $1 Community reward. If old customer does not join new PM point program will it get 5% off for bill payment?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Will New customer get 2 points for autopay and 1 point for Community reward AND 5% off the bill??&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No point of discussing this as of now... We have to wait and see what is in the store for us.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's one program or the other. Existing customers will need to decide which program they prefer, hence it being made optional for existing customers.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2022 04:28:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775777#M55943</guid>
      <dc:creator>computergeek541</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-22T04:28:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775782#M55944</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm curious, will be looking forward to more details.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":thinking_face:"&gt;🤔&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 17:46:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775782#M55944</guid>
      <dc:creator>esjliv</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T17:46:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775788#M55945</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Well it's a win win for pm's bottom line as the 5% payout is the equivalent of the autopay reward on the $40 bill. Get your referrals in now because this actually is a big loss of incentive to stay loyal to pm to build up your rewards. All this program is ...is the same as telus's home services loyalty program with a slightly higher pay out. 5% instead of 2% with $1 for $1 point redemptions, contests to enter for $5 to $8 and some uninspiring gift cards or account credits to redeem.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Between the almost carbon copy Community forum design and almost identical loyalty points program its looking more and more like public mobile is just getting absorbed by telus. Well what do you expect when members keep sending customers to contact customer support for every little thing instead of helping teach them how to manage their account and services.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You gotta pay for all those employees somehow.....the end of an era.....&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":thinking_face:"&gt;🤔&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To contact customer support click below:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/notes/composepage/note-to-user-id/22437" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/notes/composepage/note-to-user-id/22437&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To pre-verify your account include your full name, address, email, phone # and 4 digit acct pin #.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 18:01:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775788#M55945</guid>
      <dc:creator>darlicious</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T18:01:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775792#M55946</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/79275"&gt;@softech&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/186792"&gt;@J_PM&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;.&amp;nbsp; --- But with the new PM point system, I guess we are good for now&amp;nbsp; &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/79275"&gt;@softech&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;, or is it a way for Public Mobile to help deplete customer's Available Funds balance somewhere along the way...Kinda of like converting rewards into &lt;STRONG&gt;Points &lt;/STRONG&gt;rather than &lt;STRONG&gt;$'s,&lt;/STRONG&gt; and those Points can be used to enter contests or used as some kind of currency some how towards something dangling in front of us.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Like HEY, we are giving away a New Phone, enter the contest to be eligible. And in order to enter the contest so many points are needed per entry.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If this is what it is all about, I think I will keep the $'s option, rather than points.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But just speculating, until more is revealed at this point.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 18:03:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775792#M55946</guid>
      <dc:creator>esjliv</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T18:03:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775794#M55947</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/132677"&gt;@esjliv&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Go look at telus's loyalty program I can bet this will be exactly the same just with the higher pay out.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To contact customer support click below:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/notes/composepage/note-to-user-id/22437" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/notes/composepage/note-to-user-id/22437&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To pre-verify your account include your full name, address, email, phone # and 4 digit acct pin #.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 18:08:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775794#M55947</guid>
      <dc:creator>darlicious</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T18:08:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775796#M55948</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/96576"&gt;@darlicious&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Well it's a win win for pm's bottom line as the 5% payout is the equivalent of the autopay reward on the $40 bill. Get your referrals in now because this actually is a big loss of incentive to stay loyal to pm to build up your rewards. All this program is ...is the same as telus's home services loyalty program with a slightly higher pay out. 5% instead of 2% with $1 for $1 point redemptions, contests to enter for $5 to $8 and some uninspiring gift cards or account credits to redeem.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Between the almost carbon copy Community forum design and almost identical loyalty points program its looking more and more like public mobile is just getting absorbed by telus. Well what do you expect when members keep sending customers to contact customer support for every little thing instead of helping teach them how to manage their account and services.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You gotta pay for all those employees somehow.....the end of an era.....&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":thinking_face:"&gt;🤔&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To contact customer support click below:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/notes/composepage/note-to-user-id/22437" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/notes/composepage/note-to-user-id/22437&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To pre-verify your account include your full name, address, email, phone # and 4 digit acct pin #.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;The question is........do new “program” customers get $10 off for using a referral? If old program remains in place.....then do we still have the ability of receiving new referrals....or just get to hang on to the ones we have?. Yikes....I have a ton of SIM cards.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Edit:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It does say....Your current rewards will remain the same. &lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;You’ll “continue” to earn in the same ways, and save the same amount.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 18:12:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775796#M55948</guid>
      <dc:creator>CountyDownIeUk</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T18:12:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775799#M55949</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/210105"&gt;@CountyDownIeUk&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Me too!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To contact customer support click below:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/notes/composepage/note-to-user-id/22437" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/notes/composepage/note-to-user-id/22437&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To pre-verify your account include your full name, address, email, phone # and 4 digit acct pin #.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 18:13:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775799#M55949</guid>
      <dc:creator>darlicious</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T18:13:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775801#M55950</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;HI All,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is just too good to be true.&amp;nbsp; We already got ways to get free service, at least "almost-free" for most of us (Autopay discount, Friend Referral reward, Community Reward) and still not enough, they are give us 5% point back?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think something fishy here.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Maybe Friends referral will be gone as too many people are getting 100+ friends ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Maybe Community Reward will be gone as too many ways to cheat the system?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Maybe Autopay reward will be gone as too many Hyper-Autopay setup anyway?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":thinking_face:"&gt;🤔&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 18:17:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775801#M55950</guid>
      <dc:creator>hTideGnow</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T18:17:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775804#M55951</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;And there it is,… that took a long time to land. Well over a year ago there was a survey sent to some of us that I commented about on here. This has quite obviously evolved from from that survey. Then and now … I am very worried.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;With the few details given so far, it is one program or the other. Existing customers will be able to stay as is or switch to the new program. The ability is still there for the new program to be as lucrative as the old program but so far, who knows. PM has had a VERY lucrative rewards program to date so my money is on the new program not being as lucrative overall for some of us at least. But it may work better for the average person who doesn’t work hard at generating many rewards and may not be as good for those of us who DO have lots of rewards. Thus we can stay put on the old rewards program but new customers will sign on to the new program only.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;AE_Collector&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 18:22:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775804#M55951</guid>
      <dc:creator>AE_Collector</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T18:22:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Introducing Public Points ™</title>
      <link>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775805#M55952</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/162890"&gt;@hTideGnow&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Lol....one or the other &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":smirking_face:"&gt;😏&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 18:20:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://productioncommunity.publicmobile.ca/t5/Announcements/Introducing-Public-Points/m-p/775805#M55952</guid>
      <dc:creator>CountyDownIeUk</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T18:20:26Z</dc:date>
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